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06-30-2011, 11:26 AM
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No way from the Hawks. No interest in a player that has a 8.7 mil cap hit and misses tons of games to injuries.

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06-30-2011, 11:28 AM
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Chicago won't part with Kane. This could never happen.

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06-30-2011, 11:46 AM
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This is one of those cases where the deal is flat out horrible for both teams. Bolland was easily our most effective forward over the 2nd half of the season after Toews. He is a phenomenal PKer, can shut down other team's best players, and scored close to a PPG pace as the 2nd/3rd line center over that span. As a Hawk fan I would READILY trade Kane for Malkin, and like somebody else said I'd even add in a pick or two. But throwing in Bolland is a deal killer for a team that should contend for a stanley Cup. Add in the salaries which would severely hamper Chicago's ability to get an effective replacement and it becomes even worse.

As a Chicago fan though, it's pretty craze to suggest Kane is even close to as good as Malkin. The biggest deterrant would be the 2.5 (I think ?) million difference between the two salaries. On a team as cap crunched as the Hawks (not like last year of course), that can be a very big deal.

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06-30-2011, 11:47 AM
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LOL at the Hawks fans who say No from "their" standpoint. Any GM in the league would give up Kane + Bolland from Malkin. The problem is... to get Geno - You have to give up about 3 Kane's. Last time I checked -- You only have Kane and Hossa to offer us. (sorry Toews is way overrated)
Wow if Malkin is ever traded you are going to be very very upset. So you think Malkin will bring back three 22 year old kids that can score in the top ten in the NHL. Malkin is a beast of a talent its just that no superstar ever gets traded for that much NHL talent at that young of an age. If Pitt added three guys with talent of Kane Pitt with only losing Malkin Pitt is the favorite every year hands down to win the Cup. Just look at what their lineup would be.

Neal-Crosby-Kane No luck at stopping that line much at all. Kane would score 100 with Crosby. Now we don't know the other players that match Kane so just say a 80+ points kids.
Kunitz-80 point player-80 point player.
That would give Pitt probably the best first line in the NHL and a 2nd better then about 80% of the first lines in the NHL. Plus still have Staal as center on the third. If a team offer that much Pitt would have a private jet drop off Malkin with in a couple hours. Now the cap would be a problem though. Please give me what ever you are smoking cause it must be pretty damn good.

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06-30-2011, 12:08 PM
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And Kane didn't help the Hawks win a cup?

Scoring on a Flyers goaltender is nothing to brag about.

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06-30-2011, 12:11 PM
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Malkin has missed 54 games the last 2 years. It would be stupid for the Hawks to do a trade like this. Malkin doesn't help you win from the press box.
My main concern would not even be the injury although it don't help. It just does not fit in for the Hawks. Yes Malkin is a upgrade over Kane but now we just added another hole in our lineup without even getting more cap room. The Hawks high-end talent is not a problem as they can win the cup, its depth, which we just got thinner at with this trade. Now we still have a hole in our top six and just lost one of the NH's best third line centers in the game.

Look at it this way Pitt fans there is a very good reason you guys don't want to trade Staal and its the same reason Hawks fan don't want to trade Bolland. Guy is a great shutdown center who can also score. Biggest reason the Hawks lost in the first round was cause Bolly missed the first three games. Just look at Bolly's playoff numbers. In 43 gp 14g 20a 34p +11. All of this while playing a shutdown role with hardly any PP time and a top PK'er. You guys talk about how great Staal has been at his role in the playoffs yet he has not been close to the same realm of Bolly in the playoffs.

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06-30-2011, 12:11 PM
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And Kane didn't help the Hawks win a cup?

no offense but scoring the cup winning goal doesn't make kane a better player than malkin. the year malkin had start to finish to lead the league in points in the regular season and playoffs is better than any year kane will ever have.

plus talbot scored a cup winner, guess he's better than bolland

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06-30-2011, 12:12 PM
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I would be willing to bet anything that if bowman was offered this deal hed take it in a heartbeat. Any chicago fan that thinks otherwise must not pay attention to the eastern conference.
fyi Malkin is not injury prone, he had a giant fall on his leg......
Plus the guy is a freak of nature when it comes to healing anyway.

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06-30-2011, 12:14 PM
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no offense but scoring the cup winning goal doesn't make kane a better player than malkin. the year malkin had start to finish to lead the league in points in the regular season and playoffs is better than any year kane will ever have.

plus talbot scored a cup winner, guess he's better than bolland
He never said Kane was better than Malkin...

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06-30-2011, 12:19 PM
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But he helps you win Stanley cups with 35 points in the playoffs and an Art Ross during the regular season.

He missed half a season and this is HF though, so he's an injury-prone bum now.
Ya and Kane and Bolland do nothing in the playoffs. One is over a ppg in the playoffs while the other has score 34 points in 43 games all while playing the shutdown role. Just ask some Nucks/Sharks fans what they think of Bolly in the playoffs.

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06-30-2011, 12:21 PM
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And Kane didn't help the Hawks win a cup?

Leighton helped them more than Kane, especially in this case.

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06-30-2011, 12:25 PM
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I would be willing to bet anything that if bowman was offered this deal hed take it in a heartbeat. Any chicago fan that thinks otherwise must not pay attention to the eastern conference.
fyi Malkin is not injury prone, he had a giant fall on his leg......
Plus the guy is a freak of nature when it comes to healing anyway.
Well you would loose that bet then. Its all about team needs as well. Plus Kane is very very popular. And the Hawks brass love Bolly. Not worth it to fix one hole just to have two holes after the trade and no additional cap space to fill the other holes. Trades are not always just talent vs talent. Have people look at trades involving superstars to cup contending teams? They never give up their top scorer and best shutdown player who can also score.

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06-30-2011, 12:30 PM
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Shero won't (cn't) do it. Kane is an awesome player.

I wouldn't want this really. It is what it is.

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He never said Kane was better than Malkin...
Kane factors into the Hawks roster, just like Malkin factors into the Penguins roster. Malkin could be a better player than Kane (though that is a different discussion), but not bring the same attributes to the Hawks.

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06-30-2011, 01:19 PM
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Pfffft!

For a guy who couldn't top 40 points this year? No thanks. Malkin wouldn't fit in with our team anyway...and at the expense of our shutdown center and one of the best wingers in hockey? Nope.

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06-30-2011, 01:26 PM
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Moral of the story, Pittsburgh can keep Malkin, Chicago can keep Kane and Bolland, end of story, let's roll.

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06-30-2011, 01:41 PM
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this thread if pure fun

both teams hate this, both won't agree and both are happy like it is now.

Hawks like Kane and Bolland and want to keep them
Pens like Malkin and want to keep him

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