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06-28-2011, 08:32 AM
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Columbus is really brilliant with the 1st round picks.
Klesla, Leclaire, Picard, Voracek, Brassard, Brule, Filatov...
I'd fire the scouts immediatly...
not one thing wrong with their scouting.

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06-28-2011, 08:38 AM
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Here's the section regarding RFA's and qualifying offers. I don't see anything that answers the question though;

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10.2 Restricted Free Agents.
(a) Group 2 Players and Free Agents.
(i) (A) Any Player who meets the qualifications set forth in the
following chart and: (1) is not a Group 1 Player or a Group 4 Player, and
(2) is not an Unrestricted Free Agent, shall be deemed to be a "Group 2
Player" and shall, at the expiration of his SPC, become a Restricted Free
Agent. Any such Player shall be completely free to negotiate and sign an
SPC with any Club, and any Club shall be completely free to negotiate and
sign an SPC with any such Player, subject to the provisions set forth in
this Section. As used in this Section 10.2, "age," including "First SPC
Signing Age" means a Player's age on September 15 of the calendar year
in which he signs an SPC regardless of his actual age on the date he signs
such SPC.

First SPC Signing Age Eligible for Group 2 Free Agency
18 - 21 3 years professional experience
22 - 23 2 years professional experience
24 or older 1 year professional experience
For the purposes of this Section 10.2(a), a Player aged 18 or 19
earns a year of professional experience by playing ten (10) or more30
NHL Games in a given NHL Season, and a Player aged 20 or older
(or who turns 20 between September 16 and December 31 of the
year in which he signs his first SPC) earns a year of professional
experience by playing ten (10) or more Professional Games under
an SPC in a given League Year.
(B) Notwithstanding the foregoing, if a Group 2 Player requests
salary arbitration, or a Club requests salary arbitration, pursuant to Article
12, such Player will not be eligible to negotiate with any Club other than
his Prior Club or sign an Offer Sheet pursuant to this Article 10, except as
provided in Section 12.10.

(ii) In order to receive a Right of First Refusal or Draft Choice
Compensation (at the Prior Club's option) with respect to a
Restricted Free Agent, the Prior Club of a Restricted Free Agent
must tender to the Player, no later than 5:00 p.m. New York time
on the later of June 25 or the first Monday after the Entry Draft of
the final year of the Player's SPC, a "Qualifying Offer", which
shall be an offer of an SPC, for one League Year, which is subject
to salary arbitration if such Player is otherwise eligible for salary
arbitration in accordance with Section 12.1, on at least the
following terms and conditions:
(A) if the Player's prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary is less
than or equal to $660,000 for that League Year, 110% of
the prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary.
(B) if the Player's prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary is
greater than $660,000, but less than $1,000,000 for that
League Year, 105% of his prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL
Salary, but in no event to exceed $1,000,000.
(C) if the Player's prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary is equal
to or greater than $1,000,000 for that League year, 100% of
the prior year's Paragraph 1 NHL Salary.
(D) if a Player is eligible to receive a Two-Way Qualifying
Offer, the Paragraph 1 Minor League Salary component
shall not be less than the higher of the Player's prior year's
Paragraph 1 Minor League Salary, if any, or the minimum
Minor League salary.

A Qualifying Offer shall not be open for acceptance prior to July 1. If a
Qualifying Offer meeting the above requirements is timely made, the Prior Club shall
have a Right of First Refusal, exercisable in accordance with Section 10.3 below, or Draft
Choice Compensation, exercisable in accordance with Section 10.4 below. A Qualifying
Offer will be deemed to have met the above requirements if the Prior Club timely31
provides the Player a completed copy of the notice attached as Exhibit 19 hereto, in
accordance with Exhibit 3 hereto.

(iii) A Club's Qualifying Offer must be a One-Way Qualifying Offer if
the applicable Player has: (A) actually played (excluding games
missed for injury, illness or disability) 180 or more NHL Games in
the previous three (3) NHL Seasons, (B) played at least sixty (60)
NHL Games in the previous NHL Season, and (C) not cleared
Waivers in the period between the 12th day prior to the
commencement of the previous Regular Season and the end of a
Club's previous Playing Season. For purposes hereof only, a
goaltender is deemed to have played an NHL Game when he was
dressed and on the bench as a backup. In all other cases, a
Qualifying Offer may be a Two-Way Qualifying Offer.
(iv) In the event a Prior Club fails to make a Qualifying Offer as set
forth in this Section 10.2 and fails to elect salary arbitration
pursuant to Section 12.3(a), the Player shall immediately become
an Unrestricted Free Agent and shall be completely free to
negotiate and sign an SPC with any Club, and any Club shall be
completely free to negotiate and sign an SPC with any such Player,
without penalty or restriction or being subject to any Right of First
Refusal, Draft Choice Compensation, or any other compensation or
equalization obligation of any kind.

(v) A Qualifying Offer shall automatically expire at 5:00 p.m. New
York time on July 15; provided, however, that the Club may by
written notice to Central Registry and the NHLPA, sent in
accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, provided on or before 5:00 p.m.
New York time on July 15, extend the deadline for Qualifying
Offer acceptance to a date (which must be a fixed and definitive
calendar date) determined in its sole discretion.

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06-28-2011, 08:54 AM
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Here's the section regarding RFA's and qualifying offers. I don't see anything that answers the question though;

*WARNING* The following may make your head explode if read more than once.
Thanks for pulling the above. After researching the Fraser 'saga', I had forgotten that it never went to arbitration and that Lou had settled with Fraser by giving him the one-way deal he desired to reduce the likelihood of (pardon the reference) "down goes Fraser" to Albany.

I wonder how that would fly this year; but by casual reading of the sections you quoted, it seems that Mark could, if he wants, file again...

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This always makes me ill to watch. Salmela had shown flashes and you have to think this was a major setback. If this didn't happen, who knows what he would have done the rest of that season. Oh yeah, and F- Carter good riddance.


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Here's the section regarding RFA's and qualifying offers. I don't see anything that answers the question though;

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This always makes me ill to watch. Salmela had shown flashes and you have to think this was a major setback. If this didn't happen, who knows what he would have done the rest of that season. Oh yeah, and F- Carter good riddance.

I remember him doing this



just sucks that he was hit...illegally

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I see you Gilroy and raise you a Fayne.
Except Fayne was only playing in the NHL because of the ridiculous injury situation on defense. Gilroy was supposed to be the next Brian Leetch.

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Columbus is really brilliant with the 1st round picks.
Klesla, Leclaire, Picard, Voracek, Brassard, Brule, Filatov...
I'd fire the scouts immediatly...
It's not the scouts they rush everyone into the NHL and then just **** them up when developing them

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06-28-2011, 12:47 PM
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It's not the scouts they rush everyone into the NHL and then just **** them up when developing them
You get a point


BTW, I think it's good for Vasyunov to play in the KHL 1 season. He'll play a heavy schedule in a tough league, against men, maybe some international experience... he can come back stronger in 2012.

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I wouldn't be surprised if Fraser was traded to Colorado. They need some gritty SAH guys. Fraser is not horrid but he does have a few issues. He's still young though so I don't understand why he doesn't get somewhat of a pass.

I wouldn't be opposed to a Cumiskey swap for Fraser.

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Fraser got qualified?




Part of that problem is coaching which is why i simply cannot understand how anyone wants Hitchcock as coach.
Exactly I really do not want Tedenby,Josefson, Henrique, Urbom,Merill,Gelinas,Larsson,etc to turn into those picks by columbus

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I wouldn't be surprised if Fraser was traded to Colorado. They need some gritty SAH guys. Fraser is not horrid but he does have a few issues. He's still young though so I don't understand why he doesn't get somewhat of a pass.
Welcome to the New Jersey Devils board, where defensemen take more time to develop......except ours who are busts if they aren't dual Norris/Calder candidates.

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if Jared is right, Lou qualified Fraser but sees him more as an asset than a roster player. If Lou thinks a draft pick may turn into a better player than Fraser, might as well trade him away at some point and acquire the pick instead of lose him for nothing.
I can't imagine anyone actually wanting Fraser enough to trade for him. But I guess qualifying him can't hurt.

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He's a top defenseman.

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