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07-01-2011, 05:02 PM
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Best wishes to Rydes from a B's fan.

Michael was great in the playoffs. I had hope he would sign on for a couple of more years in Boston.

Best of luck in Dallas Newfie !

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Good signing. 2 year is a good length and the price is quite reasonable considering prior contracts. He's the top-6 winger that Dallas needed.

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I never even considered Ryder because I never imagine you get this amazing term .. only 2 years. So awesome.

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07-01-2011, 05:56 PM
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Boom. Ryder.

Just who I wanted. Perfect for Ribs.

The day is now officially a success.

Improved wingers, improved PK, improved 7th D.
Pretty much sums it up. Obviously we'll have to wait to see how things pan out with everyone but no silly contracts were given and the players signed address specific roles. I'm most happy that Fiddler's contract is three years and not shorter.

To piggyback your point in the Richards thread, these signings would definitely not have been possible if the Stars were courting Richards.

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I never even considered Ryder because I never imagine you get this amazing term .. only 2 years. So awesome.
I wouldn't have thought so either. It is interesting that Ryder signed for two years and Ribeiro's contract is up in two years. I wonder just how much, if any, Ribeiro influenced Ryder's decision to come here.

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Okay! Bruins fan here. I'm very familiar with Ryder. He's streaky, a bit inconsistent during the regular season. However, in the postseason, yes. He's just dependable and good for game winners. Big game player. I think he'll score some goals in Dallas with ribeiro passing to him. Yeah, he's gonna be awesome with Dallas. Good luck!

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**-Benn-Eriksson
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** between Vincour and Wandell maybe?? hard to tell..

I say put fiddler with Ott and burish and re-unite a checking line.

Put a youngster with Benn and Loui..

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Okay! Bruins fan here. I'm very familiar with Ryder. He's streaky, a bit inconsistent during the regular season. However, in the postseason, yes. He's just dependable and good for game winners. Big game player. I think he'll score some goals in Dallas with ribeiro passing to him. Yeah, he's gonna be awesome with Dallas. Good luck!
Well TY! We just recently departed with our super streaky player in Neal so it was time to bring in a new one.

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Well TY! We just recently departed with our super streaky player in Neal so it was time to bring in a new one.
At least Ryder shows up in the playoffs, that's what's important.

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07-01-2011, 07:22 PM
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At least Ryder shows up in the playoffs, that's what's important.
Well Ryder might have to be showing up to the playoffs to cheer on another team this season.

Of course, I hope I'm wrong.

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07-01-2011, 09:51 PM
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Golden locks and a golden shot, that's Michael Rydah!

He comes from Bonavista, a fishing town of less than 4000 souls on the Newfoundland coast (supposedly it was Cabot's first sighting of land and he shouted "O buon vista!") and spent his formative hockey years on puke-inducing boat rides to get to away games. Rydes is a good kid and damn, I'm gonna miss his wrist shot.

Cut him some slack the regular season...he'll tend to float. Cut him some slack when, inevitably, he overestimates his skating skills and decides he can take on three players just past the blueline and then, inevitably, gets squeezed out of the puck. The kid will work his tail off during the playoffs, he'll backcheck, he'll score, hell he'll even play goalie if need be.

Good luck to Rydes on his new team!

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07-02-2011, 08:39 AM
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What's interesting about Ryder is that if you look at his shooting percentage just from his first 5 seasons it's 12.6%, which is in line for a skilled goalscorer. But then the past 2 years where he's scored only 18 it's dipped below that number to 9.4% and 10.9% respectively. Now you hear about people projecting certain players to come back down to Earth who have an unsustainably high shooting percentages, well, the same applies in the other direction. I'd expect him to rise back to around the 12 and a half mark, which interestingly enough is also his career playoff shooting %, where everyone says he plays particularly well.

The second point is the disparity between his TOI in Boston and his likely TOI here. He only played an average of 15 minutes a game the past 2 years. Ribeiro, on the other hand, plays about 20 a night. That's a big difference. I won't say Ryder will match that, but you have to assume they'll be somewhat close, or at least closer.

So Ryder last year had 165 shots over 1,144 minutes. Now let's say next year that TOI number goes up to 1,500, barring injury. (I'm still being conservative here, Ribeiro played 1,637) That projects to ~215 total shots. Give him his previous shooting % on those and you're looking at a 27-28 goal season. And that's not even factoring the effect Ribeiro will have in terms of creating high-quality chances like we know he will, or the chemistry they had in Montreal.

30 goals is a realistic target.

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What's interesting about Ryder is that if you look at his shooting percentage just from his first 5 seasons it's 12.6%, which is in line for a skilled goalscorer. But then the past 2 years where he's scored only 18 it's dipped below that number to 9.4% and 10.9% respectively. Now you hear about people projecting certain players to come back down to Earth who have an unsustainably high shooting percentages, well, the same applies in the other direction. I'd expect him to rise back to around the 12 and a half mark, which interestingly enough is also his career playoff shooting %, where everyone says he plays particularly well.

The second point is the disparity between his TOI in Boston and his likely TOI here. He only played an average of 15 minutes a game the past 2 years. Ribeiro, on the other hand, plays about 20 a night. That's a big difference. I won't say Ryder will match that, but you have to assume they'll be somewhat close, or at least closer.

So Ryder last year had 165 shots over 1,144 minutes. Now let's say next year that TOI number goes up to 1,500, barring injury. (I'm still being conservative here, Ribeiro played 1,637) That projects to ~215 total shots. Give him his previous shooting % on those and you're looking at a 27-28 goal season. And that's not even factoring the effect Ribeiro will have in terms of creating high-quality chances like we know he will, or the chemistry they had in Montreal.

30 goals is a realistic target.
an optimistic target but not unrealistic at all. He played on the 3rd line last year that was always having different players tossed on it. Increases minutes and some play makers on his line will help a lot.

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I bet you guys get a great season out of him this year. 30 goals is high, but not out of the question. His regular seasons in Boston were maddening with long stretches of time (weeks long) looking lost or lethargic. But - when it counts, the man is present. It seemed like every year he was here he was good for a handful of CLUTCH goals or plays save the Bruins' ass. He was quietly a big part of the Bruins cup run. He was a polarizing player in Boston. Lots of people hated him, but all in all, you got to give it to his ability to come through when it matters. Good solid NHL hockey player. Enjoy, guys.

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It's sad to see Ryder go from such a strong team like Boston but I'm excited to see Ryder play with Ribeiro again (the two tore it up with 128 combined pts in Montreal for those who didn't know), not to mention another native of Bonavista in Adam Pardy. Dallas has made a lot of moves and it seems like they are really trying to build up their roster for the next few seasons! I'm looking forward to a great year out of Ryder and the whole Dallas team, I hope he shows the Bruins what a mistake it was letting him walk.

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Overpaid by about $1 million.

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Overpaid by about $1 million.
Cause we're TOTALLY worrying about overpaying someone and all.

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Overpaid by about $1 million.
Look at the term of Ryder's contract.

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Cause we're TOTALLY worrying about overpaying someone and all.
Overpaying means this team can actually spend money. Which is a positive sign with all the ownership issues.

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Look at the term of Ryder's contract.
Length is irrelevant. Unless he scores 30 or more, he's overpaid at 31.

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Overpaying means this team can actually spend money. Which is a positive sign with all the ownership issues.
Yes, your best player fleeing town because of unstable ownership is most definitely a POSITIVE.

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Length is irrelevant. Unless he scores 30 or more, he's overpaid at 31.


Yes, your best player fleeing town because of unstable ownership is most definitely a POSITIVE.
Now that's funny. Contract lengths in free agency are becoming an issue in terms of length. Signing Ryder for 2 years is a bonus compared to the 4 years Erik Cole got signed to.

When did I ever say that? The fact that this team can actually spend money (to address holes on the team) is a positive.

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These "Stars fans" coming out to bash these deals show they really aren't Stars fans. How anyone could view the Ryder deal as a bad thing is beyond me.

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Yes, your best player fleeing town because of unstable ownership is most definitely a POSITIVE.
I guess it's a good thing then that the best player from last season is still on the roster then.

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Good signing for you guys--if he gets the minutes, and has good guys to play with, 30 isn't unrealistic for Rides at all. He has the added bonus of being a really good citizen. He might look a little clueless out there every once in awhile (a tiny amount of floating--nothing bad), but when he has a good game, you'l love him to death. Some of his shots are just really pretty. He can pick a corner.

We'll miss him in the playoffs. He shows up when it counts.

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