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07-01-2011, 07:55 PM
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Rupp is not a center. He MAY be able to play center, but he should not be a center on this team.

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Move Wolski for a couple of picks like Versteeg.

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To all asking, yes, I expect a forward to get moved, either through trade or possible buyout, before season starts.
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But we have Rupp!
Seriously? There is nothing wrong with having two bodies that can work the boards, great signing for sure, for once we bring back a guy who played good for us.

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Very happy about this. I figured he was going to get $1.4M, and he deserves it. Feds is a terrific player.

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sather has to have a trade in mind right now. this signing doesn't make much sense otherwise.

not that i don't love fedentenko he's an awesome playoff performer. just too many redundant pieces right now.

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07-01-2011, 07:58 PM
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Rupp is not a center. He MAY be able to play center, but he should not be a center on this team.

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Move Wolski for a couple of picks like Versteeg.
Yes but W2 will not get a couple let alone one pick. At best a 5th rounder imo, to a team like San Jose or something.

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My guess is something is in the works to move Wolski or Avery. No one within the Rangers organization is as high on Wolski as people here are, I would imagine.

My guess?
LW - Dubinsky, Boyle, Fedotenko, Avery
C - Richards, Anisimov, Stepan, Rupp, Christensen
RW - Gaborik, Callahan, MZA, Prust
D - Staal, Girardi, Sauer, open spot, open spot, open spot
G - Lundqvist, Biron

Some competition to be had for MZA's roster spot, otherwise I think that's about it assuming we can nab Richards. It's not the worst, but you would hope for a stronger left wing corps. I'd imagine if things got really stale, they'd try out MZA at LW or make a deal (lots of chips available to play with this season). At forward, Weise, Hagelin and Thomas are the only ones I imagine could compete for a spot out of camp. I guess Dupont could be a dark horse since he's a left winger.

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Yes but W2 will not get a couple let alone one pick. At best a 5th rounder imo, to a team like San Jose or something.
better than nothing. We shed Roszival's salary for Wolski. You wouldn't have taken a 5th rounder for Roszival at the time?

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Rupp is not a center. He MAY be able to play center, but he should not be a center on this team.

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Rupp-Boyle-Prust

Move Wolski for a couple of picks like Versteeg.
He's fine at center. When you have a critical faceoff you double shift Richards or another center with the line, or don't put them out.

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sather has to have a trade in mind right now. this signing doesn't make much sense otherwise.

not that i don't love fedentenko he's an awesome playoff performer. just too many redundant pieces right now.
not really a redundant piece, what other ranger do they have that has been a key factor in the playoffs. other than Fedotenko and now Rupp cant really count anyone else..playoff experience is very important to a team to succeed

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I don't think anyone is gone. I think depending on who we're facing we'll split time between Rupp and Feds. If nothing else there's bound to be injuries so it's nice to have someone to who can step up.
Feds is an everyday player, and it's not as if he's soft. If anyone sits in a rougher game it's W2, hands down.

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The only one that has any trade value might be Boyle. Right now we have 5 4th liners on this team, and thats not including Christensen or kids like Hagelin and Weise.
20 goals is not a 4th liner , Feds has been a 3rd liner, Avery can easily move up......Prust played very well last yr, Rupp is a 4th liner for sure but a good one.

Plus its too early to know what the heck is happening here. If they lose out on Richards then a trade could go down

FLA for Weiss? or Booth? I have no idea what Sather is up too but its interesting

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I don't think anyone is gone. I think depending on who we're facing we'll split time between Rupp and Feds. If nothing else there's bound to be injuries so it's nice to have someone to who can step up.
Can we not already make predection about who will be in or out. The key is you sign quality guys and so far that is what i think weve done. Let the chips fall as there is nothing wrong with depth to put some pressure on guys in the lineup. To me no forward despite maybe Dubi and Cally are guaranteed to play every game so will see.

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Yes but W2 will not get a couple let alone one pick. At best a 5th rounder imo, to a team like San Jose or something.
Kris Versteeg returned a 1st at the deadline. He just got a 2nd and a 3rd next year from Florida. He had 44 points last season.

Wolski, on a down year, had 35. The year before last, he had 65. Are you telling me a team like Columbus or Florida or Nashville wouldnt take a flyer on a guy who can potentially up their offensive productivity?

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Avery and Boyle can pass fine as 3rd liners on winning teams. Everyone forgets that Boyle is still young...we saw him take a lot of positive steps forward in his game. The team has clearly taken notice and will give him a chance to move up off the fourth line in camp, I'm guessing.

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better than nothing. We shed Roszival's salary for Wolski. You wouldn't have taken a 5th rounder for Roszival at the time?
Yes but Rozi was a good player. He just got a bad rap here for some reason.

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Kris Versteeg returned a 1st at the deadline. He just got a 2nd and a 3rd next year from Florida. He had 44 points last season.

Wolski, on a down year, had 35. The year before last, he had 65. Are you telling me a team like Columbus or Florida or Nashville wouldnt take a flyer on a guy who can potentially up their offensive productivity?
I keep hearing Wolski had a "down year" but in reality he had what's an average year for him, it just so happened that he was on a winning team and a coach with a short temper that didn't give him as long of a leash. His ice time got cut in half with good reason and go figure his point production took a bit of a dip.

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Yes but Rozi was a good player.
I don't think you understand how toxic Rozi's trade value was at that cap hit. Look at the Brian Campbell deal. Campbell is obviously a top 4 defenseman and a guy that contributes on the powerplay and puts up good point totals year in, year out. A much better player than Roszival. He brought back an underachieving, overpaid forward, Rostislav Olesz. His career high in points is 29!

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Kris Versteeg returned a 1st at the deadline. He just got a 2nd and a 3rd next year from Florida. He had 44 points last season.

Wolski, on a down year, had 35. The year before last, he had 65. Are you telling me a team like Columbus or Florida or Nashville wouldnt take a flyer on a guy who can potentially up their offensive productivity?
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Versteeg is a much more accomplished and versatile player than Wolski.
Never argued against that.

All I was pointing out was that if a player like Versteeg, who is paid pretty well himself for being a 40ish point player, can return a 2nd AND a 3rd rounder, are you telling me Wolski couldnt return a 3rd + 4th?

I'm sorry, I just dont see his value being THAT low.

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YES now that we have Feds back and Rupp signed we don't need the best player out of the 3 in Wolski, so lets deal him for a 5th.

No room for Wolski when your wheeling out guys like Fedotenko Rupp Dubinsky and Avery. They are just too good.

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wait. rupp was signed to give us some muscle of which we had zero. hell play on line 4. feds gives us a reliable 3rd line guy.

those guys both make sense but neither are 2nd line players. this doesnt mean wolski is gone at all. christensen is the odd man out.

and i laugh at all this "who needs flaky skill guys"" stuff.

hahahaha. because we can be/have been so successful scoring 2 goals per game with a team full of callahans and prusts.

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My point is that Wolski, while showing flashes of offensive ability, is not a complete player that makes us better night after night. Teams take their chances on Zherdevs, Wolskis and Christensens because they need scoring, but if they could do it consistently they wouldn't have come so cheap. And when they're not scoring, or going to a shootout, they're hurting the team.

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YES now that we have Feds back and Rupp signed we don't need the best player out of the 3 in Wolski, so lets deal him for a 5th.

No room for Wolski when your wheeling out guys like Fedotenko Rupp Dubinsky and Avery. They are just too good.
If Torts doesnt trust Wolski to be a top-6 player, than I would say move him. He is not a good bottom-6er. Just my opinion.

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Zuke could just stay down but yea I do see a deal. Sather is good at deals and if Richards signs a dominoe could fall which may be pretty exiting

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Assuming they sign richards, it starts to get tight up front

FORWARDS
Wojtek Wolski ($3.800m) / Brad Richards ($7.000m) / Marian Gaborik ($7.500m)
Brandon Dubinsky ($4.000m) / Artem Anisimov ($1.850m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.000m)
Mats Zuccarello-Aasen ($1.750m) / Derek Stepan ($0.875m) / Ruslan Fedotenko ($1.400m)
Michael Rupp ($1.500m) / Brian Boyle ($1.925m) / Brandon Prust ($0.800m)
Sean Avery ($1.937m) / Erik Christensen ($0.925m)

DEFENSEMEN
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Daniel Girardi ($3.325m)
Ryan McDonagh ($1.300m) / Michael Del Zotto ($1.087m)
Tim Erixon ($1.750m) / Mike Sauer ($1.500m)
/ Steve Eminger ($0.750m)

GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m) / Martin Biron ($0.875m)

BUYOUTS: Chris Drury ($3.716m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,416,667; BONUSES: $2,337,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): -$116,667

EC would be the most likely casualty there, with a cheaper guy coming up from the farm should injuries necessitate it. But I like that lineup a lot

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