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07-01-2011, 10:20 PM
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Why no Ranger Love for Simon Gagne? (Signs with LAK)

I do not hear his name brought up as a possibility for the rangers and I wondered why?

Gagne-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Wolski-Stephan-Zuccarello
Rupp-Boyle-Prust
or switch Dubinsky and Gagne and use Gagne on PP Unit 1.
Could'nt we get him for 3/9M or 4/10M?

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07-01-2011, 10:21 PM
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Can't love a guy who spends most of his time in the pressbox.

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Wolski or Avery would be gone

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07-01-2011, 10:24 PM
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I'm open to the possibility, but i'm not so sure that we can just make Wolski dissapear just like that.

If i could switch out Wolski and Gagne next season for the same price, I probably would, but Im not certain that that is in the cards right now.

Of course i'd imagine management's focus right now is terms on a Richards deal, rather than Gagne.

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I'm okay with it, but he's basically a 2nd liner at best at this point.

He's lost his speed, which was his best asset, and on a line with Richards/Gaborik, you're going to want a guy who can handle a strong forecheck and control the puck behind the net with his size. That isn't Gagne's game. Look for the Rangers to put Dubinsky/Boyle there, or trade for a player such as Ryane Clowe or David Booth.

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07-01-2011, 10:29 PM
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Booth isn't a 100% possession type guy, either.

I can't see any reason why one of Dubinsky/Wolski/Avery wont find a match on that potential line. Don't have to be a superstar, just play the role and don't screw things up.

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Booth has the size/strength to handle a beating behind the net. I have a feeling Wolski would fail miserably there. Avery wouldn't be terrible. but he's certainly not a top-6 LW.

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Booth isn't a 100% possession type guy, either.

I can't see any reason why one of Dubinsky/Wolski/Avery wont find a match on that potential line. Don't have to be a superstar, just play the role and don't screw things up.
Please, everyone (not trying to single you out Fitzy), but let go of the Avery talk please. It's clear cut that he serves no purpose on this team anymore, is not in good standing with Torts, and has just as much of a chance of heading to Hartford as he does of making the Rangers team. Our forwards are in a glut right now, and Avery is very low on the list of those that are preferred.

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As far as Avery goes, I think he'll rebound a bit next year if given the chance. Shooting percentage in hockey is like BABIP in baseball--the numbers tend to regress towards the mean. Last year was an outlier for him. Over his career prior to last season, he scored on about 8.4% of his shots; then last year, the number dipped to a miniscule 2.2%. Had he scored at his typical rate, he would have had 11 goals. If he played 12 minutes per game next year and gave us 11 goals and 21 assists, that would be fine.

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07-01-2011, 10:37 PM
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NYR isn't going to pay attention to any other free agents until this whole richards thing is solved so this should be tabled til then.

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Please, everyone (not trying to single you out Fitzy), but let go of the Avery talk please. It's clear cut that he serves no purpose on this team anymore, is not in good standing with Torts, and has just as much of a chance of heading to Hartford as he does of making the Rangers team. Our forwards are in a glut right now, and Avery is very low on the list of those that are preferred.
your probably right about Avery and we resigned Feds.
Thye reason I like Gagne is because he is a finisher that I think would make Gabby and the PP click. I don't know about his work ethic and how Torts would feel.

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He's the kind of finisher the powerplay needs...it'd be pretty complete with Richards AND Gagne. Tough fit, but I'd be completely in favor of going with him over Wolski, injury concerns or not.

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I'm okay with it, but he's basically a 2nd liner at best at this point.

He's lost his speed, which was his best asset, and on a line with Richards/Gaborik, you're going to want a guy who can handle a strong forecheck and control the puck behind the net with his size. That isn't Gagne's game. Look for the Rangers to put Dubinsky/Boyle there, or trade for a player such as Ryane Clowe or David Booth.
i wouldnt mind Gagne. low rise high reward. very good defensively even if he doesnt score much. id take him over wolski.. id love clowe but doubt sharks move him..they would prolly want girardi..id love pavelski too. he would fit this team with dubi callahan stepan sauer mcdonagh.. team usa lmao

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i wouldnt mind Gagne. low rise high reward. very good defensively even if he doesnt score much. id take him over wolski.. id love clowe but doubt sharks move him..they would prolly want girardi..id love pavelski too. he would fit this team with dubi callahan stepan sauer mcdonagh.. team usa lmao
Sometimes when I come to this board and read things like this I wonder. I just really start to wonder.

So buy out Wolski, to sign Gagne the glass man to more than what Wolski is making now and longer term most likely? Please tell me how that does anything to improve this team next season.

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Sometimes when I come to this board and read things like this I wonder. I just really start to wonder.

So buy out Wolski, to sign Gagne the glass man to more than what Wolski is making now and longer term most likely? Please tell me how that does anything to improve this team next season.
It really is unbelievable. Where this ridiculous love for Gagne is coming from is beyond me..

This guys skating has regressed, his injuries have increased, all of which has affected his game where his numbers have struggled as well.

Enough. Get me a LEGIT 1st line LW.

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07-02-2011, 12:26 AM
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I have major objections to Gagne...mainly that we'd have to commit multiple years to get him - he's older, declining, would cost as much as Wolski, and produce as much as Wolski.

So let me see, for the same production we should dump the guy on the less risky one year deal and tie up our cap for 3 years on the okder injury probe guy? And take a cap hit to do it? Yeaaa bad idea.

Wolski's 45 pts on a 1 year deal beat Gagne's 50 pts on a 3 yea deal. I know we want a good top 2 LW but this class doesn't have one. Even Leino was questionable. Wolski is a #2 LW byand large over his career and given what FAs were getting(other than Jussi Jokinen), Wolski's contract is affordable and low risk.

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I'm for Gagne under the condition that we sign Richards and our RFA's are all re-signed. It also must be a one year deal, preferably around $2.5 million which I believe is fair. Basically I only want him under terms that are good for us. No two year deals, no over paying. I feel like there's a chance he could be left out in the cold ala the way Frolov was. If he doesn't like what we'd offer then he can go screw himself.

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3/9M or 4/10M

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Ugh, 3 or 4 years for an guy that can't skate and has been badly injured in three out of the last four years? Pass.

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Would love a healthy Gags on the team.... Who wouldn't ?

Can he play the game without getting injured?

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My main concerns are injuries and the cap............we need to sign our RFAs now. Bottom line

If we can move salary out in Wolski then fine I would not cry if we gave him a shot but I dont recommend it.

Gagne is a better fit in LA now with Mike R

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I asked this same thing yesterday yet my thread was no where to be found.


I would take a flyer out on Gagne.

(you see what I did there? Seee? see? Clever eh?)

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Wolski is less risky for the same production and some of you want to give him 3-4 years? Are you guys nuts?

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sorry Gagne has been a proven player more than Wolski
its his health that is the concern

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sorry Gagne has been a proven player more than Wolski
its his health that is the concern
proven for what? to get injured? to score 55 pts? and what has wolski done other than score 40-60 every year? do you understand that if we sign gagne for 4 years and he breaks down we're ****ed? meanwhile we hav a guy who scores 40-60 on a one year deal who if he doesn work out can just be let go at the end of the year. i get it you like gagne more thanwolski...that's fine...but do some basic risk analysis here ...

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