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07-01-2011, 02:05 PM
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Tom Hicks owns the Dallas Stars today. But its expected to sale before Labor Day to Vancouver mogul Tom Gaglardi after another bankruptcy court circus.

http://blogs.forbes.com/mikeozanian/...o-230-million/

The problem with hockey in the South is the South supports competitive teams, well everyone supports competitive hockey teams. Its hockey's fault they placed so many uncompetitive expansion teams in the South. Dallas was lucky getting a competitive relocated franchise with the Stars/Northstars.

When Canadians and northern Americans don't support uncompetitive hockey teams, why do they expect southern Americans to do so? Parity is the key to strongly supported teams in any league...

Notice how far the LA Dodgers have fallen with attendance numbers with a historically successful team in a huge market without a NFL team...

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Tom Hicks owns the Dallas Stars today. But its expected to sale before Labor Day to Vancouver mogul Tom Gaglardi after another bankruptcy court circus.

http://blogs.forbes.com/mikeozanian/...o-230-million/

The problem with hockey in the South is the South supports competitive teams, well everyone supports competitive hockey teams. Its hockey's fault they placed so many uncompetitive expansion teams in the South. Dallas was lucky getting a competitive relocated franchise with the Stars/Northstars.

When Canadians and northern Americans don't support uncompetitive hockey teams, why do they expect southern Americans to do so? Parity is the key to strongly supported teams in any league...

Notice how far the LA Dodgers have fallen with attendance numbers with a historically successful team in a huge market without a NFL team...
what exactly has outside interests (divorce) have to do w/ any of these issues, ST

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07-01-2011, 04:29 PM
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what exactly has outside interests (divorce) have to do w/ any of these issues, ST
Nobody actually mentioned a divorce but for the Dodgers it was everything, to decide who the owner would be between husband and wife. The husband got the team and in long term won't meet payroll. it's a big issue for the Dodgers.

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Tom Hicks owns the Dallas Stars today. But its expected to sale before Labor Day to Vancouver mogul Tom Gaglardi after another bankruptcy court circus.

http://blogs.forbes.com/mikeozanian/...o-230-million/

The problem with hockey in the South is the South supports competitive teams, well everyone supports competitive hockey teams. Its hockey's fault they placed so many uncompetitive expansion teams in the South. Dallas was lucky getting a competitive relocated franchise with the Stars/Northstars.

When Canadians and northern Americans don't support uncompetitive hockey teams, why do they expect southern Americans to do so? Parity is the key to strongly supported teams in any league...

Notice how far the LA Dodgers have fallen with attendance numbers with a historically successful team in a huge market without a NFL team...
LA is a fickle sports city and they might not even exactly come out for a winning time not named the Lakers. It's a different lifestyle. now throw in that nasty divorce and the team is in trouble and on top of it not very good, not shocking they aren't supporting.

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Nobody actually mentioned a divorce but for the Dodgers it was everything, to decide who the owner would be between husband and wife. The husband got the team and in long term won't meet payroll. it's a big issue for the Dodgers.
that's why the Dodgers are where they are, GMR..... UNDER CA Law, they are considered "community property" , WHICH is why MLB has forced the Dodgers into bankruptcy protection

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what exactly has outside interests (divorce) have to do w/ any of these issues, ST
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that's why the Dodgers are where they are, GMR..... UNDER CA Law, they are considered "community property" , WHICH is why MLB has forced the Dodgers into bankruptcy protection
That's has to be the first time I have seen a poster answer their own question.

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That's has to be the first time I have seen a poster answer their own question.


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that's why the Dodgers are where they are, GMR..... UNDER CA Law, they are considered "community property" , WHICH is why MLB has forced the Dodgers into bankruptcy protection
That didn't come so easy at first if I remember hearing the MLB didn't allow them this grant(which ironically came out of the state of DELEWARE for some stinkin reason) McCourt still owns the team, now. But onvce he doesn't meet payroll he will either have to sell or the MLB will take the team over and run it and try to find a buyer. It's been said in the past that McCourt never actually had the finances to own an MLB team, but somehow got one.

Part of the Dodgers mess is all that money they owe Marquis Grissom, Andy Jones and they even owe Vin Scully money. Between these 3 it's some 33 mil. Thats ridiculous. It's like the Mets owing Bobby bonilla money until like 2025 or whatever it is.

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It wouldn'y necessarily change the ballparks as is, the ivy could still grow with enough open sunny days in the spring/summer. Fenway would still be as is even with a retractible roof. Regardless, eventually i'm sure both teams will end up moving to new stadiums. The only reason they would be up in arms in Chicago is because of all the free loading drunks at Wrigley who watch games from apartment roof tops on Waveland Aveue. They would suddenly have to actually buy a ticket and go to the games...
I was in Boston in 1990 and the people in the ticket office were talking about getting a new stadium. That was 21 years ago! There is no room for a roof at Fenway without closing down at least one of the streets around the stadium. There really isn't any room in Boston for a new place.

Wrigley has gotten a bad rep as a dump with too many drunks inside the park. When I went there in the 1980s, it wasn't like that at all.


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