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07-03-2011, 01:24 AM
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As I said though, how do we know Valentenko isn't a liability? He'll be a rookie defenseman with mobility concerns. I think we need to see him against regular NHL players before we make that judgment. He's far from a sure thing to be defensively steady.
I'm not too concerned. He picked his play up considerably as the season went on last year. He runs around a little more than I'd like, but he's better defensively than McCabe, of that I'm pretty darn sure.

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I'm skeptical. But hopefully wrong!

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07-03-2011, 01:33 AM
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I suppose I'm biased. I hate McCabe. I've always hated McCabe. He's always been a horrible defenseman, IMO. Never had much going for him besides a hard shot and slightly above average vision. Played Exelby defense: hits, hits, hits, positioning be damned. Not my kind of player.

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07-03-2011, 01:35 AM
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Vtank has a solid shot, use him. Erixon has a decent shot too, use him.

Eminger would be just fine as the #7 defender. Good and cheap too.

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07-03-2011, 04:15 AM
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No thanks I want no part of McCabe anymore

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07-03-2011, 04:16 AM
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Vtank has a solid shot, use him. Erixon has a decent shot too, use him.

Eminger would be just fine as the #7 defender. Good and cheap too.
I think we look like this

Staal - Girardi

Sauer - McD

MDZ - Erixon

Eminger or Vtank as our 7th

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07-03-2011, 06:23 AM
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no pt to bring him back. I'l bet 5 bucks the Debbies sign him for 2 mil or so

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07-03-2011, 07:29 AM
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07-03-2011, 07:30 AM
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I think we look like this

Staal - Girardi

Sauer - McD

MDZ - Erixon

Eminger or Vtank as our 7th
This is how I see it. Hope this is how we start off.

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07-03-2011, 11:11 AM
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Valentenko has a hard shot, but he isn't even a PP point shot threat in the AHL.

On the other hand, Erixon was the triggerman on one of the SEL's top PPs, with Rundblad QBing from the left point and Erixon manning the right side. If we have a solution in the system to play the right side on the PP as a "shooter", it is Erixon, not Valentenko.

Another thought would be to use Del Zotto on the right side (remember, when our PP was at its best in recent memory, Kotalik was manning the left side and Del Zotto the right). Neither Richards nor Del Zotto is a pure shooter, but that would be some phenomenal puck movement out of the back end on the PP.

EDIT: Since I avoided the primary topic at hand in my above post, I will simply add:

McCabe?



DOUBLE EDIT: In fact, with our current roster, I'd consider leaving Richards out there for the full 2 minute PPs (which they did in Dallas at times) with one unit consisting of Richards - Del Zotto, and the other consisting of Richards - Erixon.

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Valentenko has a hard shot, but he isn't even a PP point shot threat in the AHL.

On the other hand, Erixon was the triggerman on one of the SEL's top PPs, with Rundblad QBing from the left point and Erixon manning the right side. If we have a solution in the system to play the right side on the PP as a "shooter", it is Erixon, not Valentenko.

Another thought would be to use Del Zotto on the right side (remember, when our PP was at its best in recent memory, Kotalik was manning the left side and Del Zotto the right). Neither Richards nor Del Zotto is a pure shooter, but that would be some phenomenal puck movement out of the back end on the PP.

EDIT: Since I avoided the primary topic at hand in my above post, I will simply add:

McCabe?



DOUBLE EDIT: In fact, with our current roster, I'd consider leaving Richards out there for the full 2 minute PPs (which they did in Dallas at times) with one unit consisting of Richards - Del Zotto, and the other consisting of Richards - Erixon.
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07-03-2011, 12:21 PM
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No thanks. I want no part of McCabe. If he were the McCabe of 05-06, then maybe.

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07-03-2011, 12:27 PM
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I want no part of McCabe. He's lost a significant amount of mobility and got beat far too often in his short stint here. I would LOVE Babchuck if we could get him fairly cheap. Not likely to happen though.

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07-03-2011, 12:32 PM
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The ONLY reason to even entertain the idea of signing mccabe was for the powerplay, and that went out the window the second we signed Richards

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07-03-2011, 12:49 PM
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McCabe, Bryan D NYR 36 $5,750,000 2011 (UFA)
Hannan, Scott D WAS 32 $4,500,000 2011 (UFA)
Kaberle, Tomas D BOS 33 $4,250,000 2011 (UFA)
Rivet, Craig D CLB 36 $3,500,000 2011 (UFA)
Staios, Steve D CGY 37 $2,700,000 2011 (UFA)
Wallin, Niclas D SAN 36 $2,650,000 2011 (UFA)
Sopel, Brent D MTL 34 $2,333,333 2011 (UFA)
Stralman, Anton D CLB 24 $1,950,000 2011 (UFA)
O'Brien, Shane D NAS 27 $1,600,000 2011 (UFA)
Martinek, Radek D NYI 34 $1,500,000 2011 (UFA)
Babchuk, Anton D CGY 27 $1,400,000 2011 (UFA)
Skrastins, Karlis D DAL 36 $1,375,000 2011 (UFA)
Eminger, Steve D NYR 27 $1,125,000 2011 (UFA)


Those are your options for UFA defenseman if you want a cheap bottom pairing I gotta think you look at:

Martinek, Sopel, Babchuk, Eminger, or O'Brien

My preference is Martinek just because it would piss off Islanders fans

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07-03-2011, 12:54 PM
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His wheels are gone. Too slow for the game. Plus he would want a nice piece of coin to sign. Pass.

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07-03-2011, 12:55 PM
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I want no part of McCabe. He's lost a significant amount of mobility and got beat far too often in his short stint here. I would LOVE Babchuck if we could get him fairly cheap. Not likely to happen though.
I think Babchuk is out of our price range. Even if he isn't, you have to think he's looking for several years, which I would not be willing to give him.

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07-03-2011, 01:16 PM
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McCabe is an awful skater. He is too slow to join the rush or pinch to really take advantage of his shooting ability. Plus, he is a trainwreck defensively. I was nervous whenever he was on the ice, if we were not on the pp. The rangers made the right decision not bringing him back.

I would love to sign Babchuk to a 1 year deal. He is a much better defensemen than McCabe and would be fine playing on the bottom pair. Babchuk and Richards would be a deadly powerplay combination.

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07-03-2011, 01:49 PM
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After watching McCabe play last season, how can anyone in their right mind suggest such a thing? I am blown away. I'd rather have Sather play as our 6th/7th D.

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07-03-2011, 04:30 PM
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Is Babchuk a shooter though? The one thing I liked about McCabe was that he either saw a lane and shot or found a way to gain a shooting lane and just ripped it. No one else on the current roster does that from anywhere on the powerplay, let alone the point. If he was willing to come back for $1-1.5 mil, I'd entertain it.

However, with reported interest in Babchuk (saw it somewhere), the kids in the system, and the fact that McCabe hasn't already been re-signed and that we haven't heard they're working on it, I doubt it. Wasn't it even reported that he wouldn't be offered any contract from the Rangers?

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07-03-2011, 04:32 PM
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Shane O'Brien is a fun player to watch if you can get over his occasional bad penalty and slightly below average mobility.

No to McCabe, btw. He's the opposite of the organizational direction this team should be in.

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07-03-2011, 04:49 PM
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Is Babchuk a shooter though? The one thing I liked about McCabe was that he either saw a lane and shot or found a way to gain a shooting lane and just ripped it. No one else on the current roster does that from anywhere on the powerplay, let alone the point. If he was willing to come back for $1-1.5 mil, I'd entertain it.

However, with reported interest in Babchuk (saw it somewhere), the kids in the system, and the fact that McCabe hasn't already been re-signed and that we haven't heard they're working on it, I doubt it. Wasn't it even reported that he wouldn't be offered any contract from the Rangers?
Babchuk is a great PP shooter, but again, I think the cost (both in terms of dollars and years) precludes him from being a viable option for us.

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07-03-2011, 06:09 PM
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McCabe, Bryan D NYR 36 $5,750,000 2011 (UFA)
Hannan, Scott D WAS 32 $4,500,000 2011 (UFA)
Kaberle, Tomas D BOS 33 $4,250,000 2011 (UFA)
Rivet, Craig D CLB 36 $3,500,000 2011 (UFA)
Staios, Steve D CGY 37 $2,700,000 2011 (UFA)
Wallin, Niclas D SAN 36 $2,650,000 2011 (UFA)
Sopel, Brent D MTL 34 $2,333,333 2011 (UFA)
Stralman, Anton D CLB 24 $1,950,000 2011 (UFA)
O'Brien, Shane D NAS 27 $1,600,000 2011 (UFA)
Martinek, Radek D NYI 34 $1,500,000 2011 (UFA)
Babchuk, Anton D CGY 27 $1,400,000 2011 (UFA)
Skrastins, Karlis D DAL 36 $1,375,000 2011 (UFA)
Eminger, Steve D NYR 27 $1,125,000 2011 (UFA)


Those are your options for UFA defenseman if you want a cheap bottom pairing I gotta think you look at:

Martinek, Sopel, Babchuk, Eminger, or O'Brien

My preference is Martinek just because it would piss off Islanders fans
Del Zotto might not be ready, might need another year in AHL or might be shipped off in a package deal for a LW'r

With that said, I believe Anton Babchuk should be the one signed. The man can flat out run a PP and I know we have Richards but we do have 2 PP units or we could stick them together and see how we do then. With a healthy PP this team could be amazing.

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07-03-2011, 06:16 PM
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I'm more for bringing back Eminger and playing Del Zotto and Erixon.

I wouldn't mind re-signing McCabe, but no more than $2 million.

Since he's a shooter, like some have already mentioned, why not, if he is brought back, I'd like to see him paired up with Richards on one power play unit.

I rather have Eminger over McCabe, though. Not speaking for the power play, but just in general.

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After watching McCabe play last season, how can anyone in their right mind suggest such a thing? I am blown away. I'd rather have Sather play as our 6th/7th D.
This, except add the years he played in FL.

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