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07-03-2011, 09:44 PM
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Goal projections as the team stands now I wont include defense in mine

Briere- 31
JVR-28
Giroux-25
Hartnell-22
Jagr-26
Voracek-21
Simmonds-19
Talbot-14
schenn-14
nodl-14
betts-6
XXX-0-10

I dont see these being absurb. Simmonds is on the upswing, and has potted 16 so even he could clip the 20 goal mark. Voracek should climb as well, and JVR hopefully carries his late season play which I fully expect him to. I think we know and expect what we will get from most of our forwards, and most of our youngs should progress in points and skill.

Two wild cards are

Jagr - hard to speculate on him because he has been out of the nhl for 3 years now. If he looks like he did in the world championships he should eclipse 60 points, heck Jagr-Giroux-JVR could be a very dangerous line and surprise alot of teams. They would have plenty of size on the wing, and even though giroux is smaller they all control the puck along the boards at star levels.

Schenn- could be rookie of the year, and could also need more time to develop. If he comes out of the gates like skinner did last year in the 3rd line spot we will have 3 very dangerous lines, and that will make a world of difference.

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07-03-2011, 10:17 PM
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Goal projections as the team stands now I wont include defense in mine

Briere- 31
JVR-28
Giroux-25
Hartnell-22
Jagr-26
Voracek-21
Simmonds-19
Talbot-14
schenn-14
nodl-14
betts-6
XXX-0-10

I dont see these being absurb. Simmonds is on the upswing, and has potted 16 so even he could clip the 20 goal mark. Voracek should climb as well, and JVR hopefully carries his late season play which I fully expect him to. I think we know and expect what we will get from most of our forwards, and most of our youngs should progress in points and skill.

Two wild cards are

Jagr - hard to speculate on him because he has been out of the nhl for 3 years now. If he looks like he did in the world championships he should eclipse 60 points, heck Jagr-Giroux-JVR could be a very dangerous line and surprise alot of teams. They would have plenty of size on the wing, and even though giroux is smaller they all control the puck along the boards at star levels.

Schenn- could be rookie of the year, and could also need more time to develop. If he comes out of the gates like skinner did last year in the 3rd line spot we will have 3 very dangerous lines, and that will make a world of difference.
I don't think Jagr will get 26 I think he'll be more in the range of 18-22 and I don't see Nodl getting 14 goals playing 4th line minutes, which I fully expect him to in the departure of powe.

Everything else looks spot on to me

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07-03-2011, 10:26 PM
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Not sure Nodl and Talbot get 14 a piece playing on the fourth line. That would be pretty good production from those guys, but I don't see it. The rest of it seems pretty good. I think Voracek gets a little more and JVR gets a little less.

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07-03-2011, 10:38 PM
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Briere 29 goals
Hartnell 26 goals
JVR 25 goals
Jagr 23 goals
Giroux 22 goals
Simmonds 17 goals
Voracek 16 goals
Schenn 15 goals
Couturier 12 goals
Talbot 8 goals
Betts 6 goals
Nodl 5 goals

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07-03-2011, 10:43 PM
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Giroux had 25 last year, I actually dont see why he couldnt hit 30 playing on a line with jagr and JVR, and another year to develop. I remember glen healy say during our cup run that giroux will be a top 5 scorer in the next few years, and I totally agree with him.

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07-03-2011, 10:55 PM
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Goals:

Giroux - 27
Briere- - 32
Hartnell - 25
Voracek - 20
Talbot - 9
Van Riemsdyk - 30
Jagr - 19
Simmonds - 18
Schenn - 14
Betts - 6
Nodl - 11
Shelley - 1
Sestito/Read/Wellwood/Holmstrom - 6


Pronger - 5
Timonen - 5
Meszaros - 7
Carle - 2
Lilja - 1
Coburn -3


Bryzgalov - 59 (We need to replace Carter and Richards' production somehow! )

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Does anyone else think mez can tickle the twine often for us this year? Last year he scored some big goals, and had plenty of chances.

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jvr will not be scoring less than 30 goals. bet on it.

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I could see Mez getting at least 10 goals. Dude has a booming shot abd he should get some powerplay time. A little optimistic though

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jvr will not be scoring less than 30 goals. bet on it.
holmgren sure as hell did.


If jvr doesnt step into his own this year, its going to be a long year. Basically it has to be game 3 vs the bruins every game this year.

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I don't think Jagr will get 26 I think he'll be more in the range of 18-22 and I don't see Nodl getting 14 goals playing 4th line minutes, which I fully expect him to in the departure of powe.

Everything else looks spot on to me
I think one of the main reasons why Jagr was brought in, was not only is he cheap one year replacement for Ville, but he is going to get a lot of PP time. That alone is going to 20 i believe. But his playmaking ability is really going to help guys like JVR and Giroux on the PP too. If you look at our pp stats last year imagine what a bump in time and chances would do to a guy like JVR's stats.

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Giroux, Briere, JVR

25+

Voracek, hartnell - If we had Versteeg, he would go right here.

20+

Simmonds, jagr,

10+

schenn , Nodl

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You guys have probably already seen this but here is Jagr's take on the NHL and KHL:

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“It’s much harder to become the best scorer in Russia than NHL. The rinks are much bigger here and one really has to skate a lot. In the NHL, once you get by one person, you have a chance to score. And here? You can get around one defender, but you still have about 20 meters to go. Everyone can skate very well here. I would say, even better than in the NHL. You can’t outrun anyone, really.”

"I think after three years in Russia, I'm going to be a better player than I was before I left. I know that. I found out during the lockout when I played the whole year in Russia and I came back [to the NHL] and I had probably my best year in New York," Jagr said. "The skating on the big ice [in the KHL], the practices, it's not easy to play there. You practice a lot harder than in the NHL. On the big ice, you have to skate; I played a lot on the big ice, sometimes I play on two lines. If I decided to come back [to the NHL], I think I would be a better player than before I left."

“I spend a lot of time on the ice and in the gym now. I know that I will have to work a lot. Training is much harder in Russia than in the NHL. I would not want people to laugh at me at the first skating session. It’s very important to me not to fall below my personal level even in training.”
I think most people will be pleasantly surprised when Jagr scores more than 30 goals.

I think the Flyers will have potentially 3-4 players with 25 + goals.


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Briere- 31
JVR-28
Giroux-25
Hartnell-22
Jagr-26
Voracek-21
Simmonds-19
Talbot-14
schenn-14
nodl-14
betts-6
XXX-0-10

Hartnell(25) - Briere(31) - Jagr(29)
JVR(35) - Giroux(28) - Voracek(24)
Simmonds(19) - Schenn(21) - Nodl(15)
Betts(6) - Talbot(4) - Sestito(4)

241 - 10% = 220 ish.

Don't think they will be too far off either. I bet that schenn has a similar rookie year to Richards and Carter, I'm banking on Jagr playing like the beast he used too, and vora and simmonds playing well.

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Briere - 30G 25A
JVR - 27G 30A
Giroux - 26G 60A
Hartnell - 21G 20A
Jagr - 21G 31A
Voracek - 21G 19A
Simmonds - 15G 20A
Talbot - 11G 10A
Schenn - 15G 19A
Nodl - 10G 15A
Betts - 5G 8A
Sestito - 4G 4A

Pronger - 11G 35A
Carle - 9G 32A
Kimmo - 5G 26A
Mez - 10G 22A
Coburn - 3G 15A
Bartulis? - 1G 10A

Bryz - 40 - 20 - 3 .92%
Bob - 9 - 5 - 5 .90%

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My predictions

Briere - 30G 35A
JVR - 30G 30A
Giroux - 26G 50A
Hartnell - 21G 20A
Jagr - 31G 55A
Voracek - 21G 21A
Simmonds - 15G 20A
Talbot - 11G 10A
Schenn - 15G 19A
Nodl - 10G 15A
Betts - 5G 8A
Sestito - 4G 4A

Pronger - 11G 40A
Carle - 9G 32A
Kimmo - 5G 26A
Mez - 10G 22A
Coburn - 3G 15A
Bartulis? - 1G 10A

Bryz - 36 - 20 - 3 .92%
Bob - 5 - 5 - 5 .90%

Some of these players seem high but I think the Flyers will be deadly on the powerplay and I think a lot of the players will rack up numbers on the powerplay.

I think a powerplay of Giroux, Jagr, Briere, JVR, Pronger and Hartnell/ Voracek will be deadly.

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Hartnell (22G,18A)-Briere (34G,38A)-Voracek (24G, 35A)
JvR (37G, 23A)-Giroux (27G, 58A)- Jagr (19G, 31A)
Simmonds (17G, 14A)-Schenn (27G, 27A)-??? (?G, ?A)
Betts (5G, 10A)-Talbot (11G, 14A)-Nodl (13G, 8A)
Shelley (65G, 120A)

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I'm interested to see how the stats will actually be once the season begins.

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I think a powerplay of Giroux, Jagr, Briere, JVR, Pronger and Hartnell/ Voracek will be deadly.
i hope so, the PP disappeared most of last season.

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Briere - 30G 25A
JVR - 27G 30A
Giroux - 26G 60A
Hartnell - 21G 20A
Jagr - 21G 31A
Voracek - 21G 19A
Simmonds - 15G 20A
Talbot - 11G 10A
Schenn - 15G 19A
Nodl - 10G 15A
Betts - 5G 8A
Sestito - 4G 4A

Pronger - 11G 35A
Carle - 9G 32A
Kimmo - 5G 26A
Mez - 10G 22A
Coburn - 3G 15A
Bartulis? - 1G 10A

Bryz - 40 - 20 - 3 .92%
Bob - 9 - 5 - 5 .90%

I'll go with this, but I'd give a few more losses to the goalies.

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Giroux- 25/60-85
Briere- 30/40- 70
JvR- 30/25- 55
Jagr-25/30- 55
Voracek- 21/30- 51
Hartnell- 21/20- 41
Simmonds- 20/15- 35
Schenn- 15/20- 35
Nodl- 15/15- 30
Talbot- 10/10- 20
Betts- 8/5- 13
Sesito- 9/3- 12

Pronger- 10/35- 45
Kimmo- 6/26- 32
Carle- 3/28- 31
Mez- 10/19- 29
Coburn- 8/9- 17
Bart- 2/9- 11
Lilja- 1/2- 3

Bryz- 42-18- 2.09ga .932 sp
Bob- 13-5- 2.48ga .916 sp
Backlund- 1-1 3.2ga .89 sp

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This might not be the place for this, but while we are looking at projections, what type of player is Voacek, and what is he projected to be? Are we looking at a finesse guy who nets 20 goals and 30 assists?

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holmgren sure as hell did.


If jvr doesnt step into his own this year, its going to be a long year. Basically it has to be game 3 vs the bruins every game this year.
Yeah I just posted this in the Jagr thread but I guess it applies here. I think the difference between a 4/5 seed and a 7/8 seed or maybe even missing the playoffs is 1. Pronger staying healthy 2. JVR putting up 30 and 3. Jagr and Voracek combining for at least 40 goals. Hopefully that and Bryzgalov would help offset losing not only the offensive output of Carter/Richards/Leino but the defense down the middle that we will be much weaker at.

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Briere: 30g -37a -67pts
JVR: 32g -22a - 54pts
Giroux: 27g - 57a - 84pts
Hartnell: 22g - 21a - 43pts
Jagr: 21g - 24a - 45pts
Voracek: 23g - 32a - 55pts
Simmonds: 18g - 18a - 36pts
Talbot: 12g - 11a - 23pts
Schenn: 13g - 18a - 31pts
Nodl: 10g - 13a - 23pts
Betts: 4g - 5a - 9pts
Shelly: 1g - 3a -4pts

Pronger: 9g -30a - 39pts
Timonen: 5g - 30a - 35pts
Mez: 10g -24a - 34pts
Carle: 3g - 29a - 32pts
Coburn: 5g - 15a - 20pts

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JVR-26-30
Giroux-25-62
Simmonds-22-20
Hartnell-21-22
Briere-27-43
Jagr-13-43
Read 14-15
Schenn-20-24
Voracek-20-30
Nodl-10-13
Talbot-7-11
Betts-4-6
call ups-2-4

Pronger-7-30
Carle-5-22
Timonen-4-27
Coburn-3-15
Meszaros-8-22
6th-1-8

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