HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > General Hockey Discussion > Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk
Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk Trade rumors, transactions, and free agent talk. Rumors must contain the word RUMOR in post title. Proposals must contain the word PROPOSAL in post title.

Hanzal to Nucks

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-02-2011, 02:01 PM
  #1
Dreamskull
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sudbury, ON
Posts: 177
vCash: 500
Hanzal to Nucks

Hey, wondering what people think it would cost to get Hanzal out of Phoenix. Last I heard is that people in Phoenix are pretty high on him so I'm sure it would be pricey however wondering if something can be built around Schneider+ (or even Schneider++)

I think his size and abilities would complement vancouver's 2nd line and i think his 2-way abilities would develop playing on a line with Kesler.

Also, I haven't had the opportunity to watch him play too often but I know he pretty much only plays center in Phoenix, has he ever played on the wing?


So what would be needed to make it happen??

Dreamskull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 02:06 PM
  #2
GoodKiwi
Registered User
 
GoodKiwi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Montreal
Country: Georgia
Posts: 9,192
vCash: 500
Nothing.

Phoenix is short on centers as is.

GoodKiwi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 02:11 PM
  #3
Horvat2Virtanen
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Horvat2Virtanen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Country: Canada
Posts: 33,602
vCash: 50
Kesler or Edler no joke

Horvat2Virtanen is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 02:11 PM
  #4
Magnifique
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Arizona
Country: United States
Posts: 6,572
vCash: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoodKiwi View Post
Nothing.

Phoenix is short on centers as is.
This.

I don't mean to be rude, but this conversation will lead to a horrible place. We are short a center right now, no way we move one without getting one of equal or greater value back. Also take into account the top centers in the Pacific division; those guys are why we need Hanzal more than anything else.

Magnifique is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 02:13 PM
  #5
rypper
Registered User
 
rypper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,740
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yotes Persevere View Post
This.

I don't mean to be rude, but this conversation will lead to a horrible place. We are short a center right now, no way we move one without getting one of equal or greater value back. Also take into account the top centers in the Pacific division; those guys are why we need Hanzal more than anything else.


understood..backs out slowly from thread.

rypper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 02:25 PM
  #6
CM-
Registered User
 
CM-'s Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Edmonton
Posts: 1,034
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hurley View Post
understood..backs out slowly from thread.
No no no... You yell "Look a distraction!" then run 50 miles in the other direction.

CM- is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 02:26 PM
  #7
Dreamskull
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sudbury, ON
Posts: 177
vCash: 500
oh wow, hadn't realized how strapped for centers the yotes are. Vancouver does have some center prospects who may be ready to step into your lineup.

Hodgson (our best Center prospect, i think he can step right into your roster)
Schroeder (our 2nd best Center prospect, probably needs another year in the AHL though)
Schneider (Goal tandem with Smith for now, can take over as starter soon)
2012 2nd (2012 is said to be a pretty deep pool)

for

Hanzal.

Am I still way off base? or just barking up the wrong tree.

Dreamskull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:06 PM
  #8
Nuck This
Registered User
 
Nuck This's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Vancouver
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,974
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamskull View Post
oh wow, hadn't realized how strapped for centers the yotes are. Vancouver does have some center prospects who may be ready to step into your lineup.

Hodgson (our best Center prospect, i think he can step right into your roster)
Schroeder (our 2nd best Center prospect, probably needs another year in the AHL though)
Schneider (Goal tandem with Smith for now, can take over as starter soon)
2012 2nd (2012 is said to be a pretty deep pool)

for

Hanzal.

Am I still way off base? or just barking up the wrong tree.
Schneider would dominate Smith for that starting job.

Nuck This is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:12 PM
  #9
CpatainCanuck
Registered User
 
CpatainCanuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,700
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamskull View Post
oh wow, hadn't realized how strapped for centers the yotes are. Vancouver does have some center prospects who may be ready to step into your lineup.

Hodgson (our best Center prospect, i think he can step right into your roster)
Schroeder (our 2nd best Center prospect, probably needs another year in the AHL though)
Schneider (Goal tandem with Smith for now, can take over as starter soon)
2012 2nd (2012 is said to be a pretty deep pool)

for

Hanzal.

Am I still way off base? or just barking up the wrong tree.
The canucks are not going to trade their 3 best prospects for...Hanzal. That's the kind of deal you reserve for someone who has scored more than 35 points in the nhl.

CpatainCanuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:14 PM
  #10
ManoWarrior
Registered User
 
ManoWarrior's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 1,088
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamskull View Post
oh wow, hadn't realized how strapped for centers the yotes are. Vancouver does have some center prospects who may be ready to step into your lineup.

Hodgson (our best Center prospect, i think he can step right into your roster)
Schroeder (our 2nd best Center prospect, probably needs another year in the AHL though)
Schneider (Goal tandem with Smith for now, can take over as starter soon)
2012 2nd (2012 is said to be a pretty deep pool)

for

Hanzal.

Am I still way off base? or just barking up the wrong tree.
This is a big overpayment for the Canucks. We're getting a 24 year old, 30ish point center for most of our best young talent. Phoenix might not do this because of a lack NHL proven centers, but this a great deal for them value-wise.

There is no deal to be made to get Hanzal to the Canucks IMO. He just doesn't make sense compared to how much he'll cost. Doan is an option for the Canucks, but it would be a steep price.

ManoWarrior is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:17 PM
  #11
Mizral
Registered User
 
Mizral's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Earth, MW
Country: Canada
Posts: 18,108
vCash: 500
Hanzel is going to be a good player but realistically the Canucks have a young player in a similar position but a few years back in Hodgson. Hanzel isn't going to outplay Malhotra or Kesler anytime soon so I just don't see him being what Vancouver needs right now.

Mizral is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:26 PM
  #12
Boondock
Registered User
 
Boondock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 2,615
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamskull View Post
oh wow, hadn't realized how strapped for centers the yotes are. Vancouver does have some center prospects who may be ready to step into your lineup.

Hodgson (our best Center prospect, i think he can step right into your roster)
Schroeder (our 2nd best Center prospect, probably needs another year in the AHL though)
Schneider (Goal tandem with Smith for now, can take over as starter soon)
2012 2nd (2012 is said to be a pretty deep pool)

for

Hanzal.

Am I still way off base? or just barking up the wrong tree.
Just so I understand this - you are looking to trade away arguably the Canucks 3 best prospects plus a 2nd, for a good defensive Centre - the 1 position we are pretty deep at (Sedin, Kesler, Malhotra, Lapierre, Hodgson).

Not a very well thought out proposal that's for sure

Boondock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:36 PM
  #13
The Fuhr
Registered User
 
The Fuhr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hamilton,Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 35,501
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CpatainCanuck View Post
The canucks are not going to trade their 3 best prospects for...Hanzal. That's the kind of deal you reserve for someone who has scored more than 35 points in the nhl.
To be fair Hanzal's game is like Holik's
He is needed to play 20 minutes a night of shutdown hockey against the Kopitars, Thortons and Getzlafs of the Pacific.

You take Hanzal away from the Yotes even with that package they probably are drafting 1st overall.

There team runs through his defensive physical game... as Hanzal goes so go the Yotes

The Fuhr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:39 PM
  #14
Sayonara77
Farewell Kes
 
Sayonara77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Portland, Oregon
Country: United States
Posts: 2,175
vCash: 500
We have no need for hanzal.

Sayonara77 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:39 PM
  #15
CpatainCanuck
Registered User
 
CpatainCanuck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,700
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fuhr View Post
To be fair Hanzal's game is like Holik's
He is needed to play 20 minutes a night of shutdown hockey against the Kopitars, Thortons and Getzlafs of the Pacific.

You take Hanzal away from the Yotes even with that package they probably are drafting 1st overall.

There team runs through his defensive physical game... as Hanzal goes so go the Yotes
Thanks for on the info.

On the other side of the coin though: Hanzal is the one type of player that the canucks do not need at this moment; they are entirely set at the centre position, especially the defensive centre position.

Observe:

H. Sedin
Kesler
Malhotra
Lappiere
Hodgson

CpatainCanuck is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 03:43 PM
  #16
The Fuhr
Registered User
 
The Fuhr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Hamilton,Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 35,501
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by CpatainCanuck View Post
Thanks for on the info.

On the other side of the coin though: Hanzal is the one type of player that the canucks do not need at this moment; they are entirely set at the centre position, especially the defensive centre position.

Observe:

H. Sedin
Kesler
Malhotra
Lappiere
Hodgson
I agree based on need the Canucks should not have interest in Hanzal because it makes no sense.

The value that was mentioned earlier would be the kind of payment it would probably take to even get the Yotes thinking.

Such an important part of the team.

The Fuhr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-02-2011, 05:05 PM
  #17
Dreamskull
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Sudbury, ON
Posts: 177
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Boondock View Post
Just so I understand this - you are looking to trade away arguably the Canucks 3 best prospects plus a 2nd, for a good defensive Centre - the 1 position we are pretty deep at (Sedin, Kesler, Malhotra, Lapierre, Hodgson).

Not a very well thought out proposal that's for sure

Was just trying to figure out what it would need to get phoenix listening, not saying I'd pull the trigger.

Dreamskull is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2011, 08:56 PM
  #18
Coyote_Fan
Registered User
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Country: United States
Posts: 665
vCash: 500
I love Marty but I might take Hodgson, the Schneider's and the pick.

Coyote_Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2011, 09:15 PM
  #19
WeekendAtBernies
Registered User
 
WeekendAtBernies's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Posts: 2,716
vCash: 500
Hanzal... so hot right now... Hanzal

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV_hDyfmEw4

WeekendAtBernies is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2011, 09:28 PM
  #20
Hi-wayman
Registered User
 
Hi-wayman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Calgary
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,478
vCash: 500
Based on this thread, it would seem that Hanzal is out, but also it points that the Yotes could use another centre, a position that the Canucks are solid in.

If the Canucks offered Hodgson to Phoenix what would the Yotes offer in return that the Canucks could use?

Hi-wayman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2011, 09:35 PM
  #21
eklunds source
HFBoards Sponsor
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Ed Snider's basement
Posts: 7,635
vCash: 500
When you start looking at other teams needs (PHX, centers) and seeing what you have that can help them out (VAN, prospects), you're going about a trade the wrong way... The Canucks don't need Hanzel (certainly not for their 3 best prospects and a 2nd, lol), and they're not shopping prospects just because.

They're trying to acquire a top-6 forward (for which those pieces may be in play) and a depth defenseman. Doan is probably the only Coyote that Gillis would be interest in parting with prospects for and I don't think he'll be moved.

You're talking about professional hockey players lives. You're not trading POGs or stamps. Deals don't happen just because, and GMs don't say "okay, well I have ____, what do you have that you wanna offer me for it?!"..

eklunds source is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2011, 09:49 PM
  #22
rt
Usually Incorrect
 
rt's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Rarely Sober
Country: United States
Posts: 41,293
vCash: 500
Kesler. Which obviously doesn't work.

rt is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-03-2011, 10:30 PM
  #23
thadd
Oil4Life
 
thadd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: China
Country: Canada
Posts: 15,849
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to thadd
Edler plus hodson

thadd is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:35 PM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. 2014 All Rights Reserved.