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07-03-2011, 11:23 AM
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You've seriously never heard someone say the same thing about the NFL? I've heard many people say the NFL is full of criminals and thugs as well.
Yeah, but I mean not as bad as the NBA has been.

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The NFL poster boys are mostly white (Manning, Brady, Brees), that would be my explanation. It is a very sad thing, but I think it is the answer.
So your saying that the NBA is portrayed badly because most of its players are black while the NFL is given a pass because even though most of there players are black they have 3 white QB's that have won MVP awards?

Didn't Nash and Dirk win MVP's and get pretty universal recognistion as the great white hopes?

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Yeah, but I mean not as bad as the NBA has been.
I was actually looking at a list of NBA players who had been arrested for drugs or violence in the last 20 years and the list was pretty damn long.

I bet if you looked up a list of NFL players and compared them the numbers wouldn't be very far off.

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Again, the numbers are similar for both leagues. There is no bias towards one or the other.

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So your saying that the NBA is portrayed badly because most of its players are black while the NFL is given a pass because even though most of there players are black they have 3 white QB's that have won MVP awards?

Didn't Nash and Dirk win MVP's and get pretty universal recognistion as the great white hopes?
Nash and Dirk aren't as heavily marketed as the face of their sports as Brady and Manning are. Kobe Bryant and Lebron James are, both are black athletes, one was accused of **** and the other is pretty much universally hated.

And don't put your head in the sand, the NBA is mostly seen as a "black" sport, the NFL is not, even though there are A LOT of black players in it.

I love basketball and I think all of this is VERY VERY VERY sad, but we have to face the truth, there is a big racial issue in the way the NBA is perceived. And that is breaking my heart because a dozen of thugs make a whole sport, heck, in the mind of some retards, a whole "race" look bad.

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07-03-2011, 07:59 PM
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Can't remember the last time a football player went into the stands to beat up a fan...

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Can't remember the last time a football player went into the stands to beat up a fan...
Can't remember the last time fans were sitting on the field at a football game...

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Nash and Dirk aren't as heavily marketed as the face of their sports as Brady and Manning are. Kobe Bryant and Lebron James are, both are black athletes, one was accused of **** and the other is pretty much universally hated.

And don't put your head in the sand, the NBA is mostly seen as a "black" sport, the NFL is not, even though there are A LOT of black players in it.

I love basketball and I think all of this is VERY VERY VERY sad, but we have to face the truth, there is a big racial issue in the way the NBA is perceived. And that is breaking my heart because a dozen of thugs make a whole sport, heck, in the mind of some retards, a whole "race" look bad.
Did you ever think the reason NBA gets such a bad perception is because of there garbage product on stands , The attacks on coaches , The generally higher notoriety of there incidents (Pulling guns on teammates , Strangling coach , Attacking fans in stands , etc)

Race has little to do with it ,, People loved Reggie Miller , Karl Malone , MJ , Mutumbo , Shaq , etc

Todays NBA players are for most part not likeable and they play garbage game on court


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but NFL players **** people, fight dogs, shoot each off the court, travis henry and his kids.

Its not race for because the NFL is black too. Just seems bias.

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but NFL players **** people, fight dogs, shoot each off the court, travis henry and his kids.
And that doesn't go on with NBA players?

The NFL gets their fair share of criticism and bashing, too, for their thuggery and crime.

Seems like you're just holding a grudge against the NFL.

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but NFL players **** people, fight dogs, shoot each off the court, travis henry and his kids.

Its not race for because the NFL is black too. Just seems bias.

For every Michael Vick there's Quintel Woods.

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Can't remember the last time fans were sitting on the field at a football game...
Can't remember the last time, basketball fans were sitting on the court?

Fact is, **** is thrown all the time in football games (hello the Dawg Pound! or Philadelphia). And yet no one has jumped into the stands to go after a fan.

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In 2004, FORTY percent of NBA players had criminal records

http://spectator.org/archives/2004/11/23/rap-sheets#

Since 40 is almost 6 times more than the 7% of football players....that's why they said the NBA was full of thugs.

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Can't remember the last time, basketball fans were sitting on the court?

Fact is, **** is thrown all the time in football games (hello the Dawg Pound! or Philadelphia). And yet no one has jumped into the stands to go after a fan.
Well to be fair, they don't have Ron Artest...er...Metta World Peace.

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And that doesn't go on with NBA players?

The NFL gets their fair share of criticism and bashing, too, for their thuggery and crime.

Seems like you're just holding a grudge against the NFL.
No. I am a Giants Fans. I'm just saying the media is showing an unfair bias against the NBA for literally no reason.

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For every Michael Vick there's Quintel Woods.
True.

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No. I am a Giants Fans. I'm just saying the media is showing an unfair bias against the NBA for literally no reason.
other than many more NBA players by percentage than NFL players, like the facts?

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Because the NBA is America's only percieved "black" league.

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other than many more NBA players by percentage than NFL players, like the facts?
http://www.lasentinel.net/Blacked-Out.html

21 percent and 40 percent

But:

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The NFL said that the study unfairly included criminal incidents in college and that there arrest rate is no different from any other group. According to the actually numbers, the arrest rate in the NFL is smaller than most other groups.
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Benedict claims that 40 percent of NBA players have criminal records. He had to back off of those claims after NBA commissioner David Stern protested the book. Benedict later admitted that he used incomplete data to come up with his figure. Out of the 450 NBA players, he was only able to get information on 177 of them.
So we really don't know.

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Nash and Dirk aren't as heavily marketed as the face of their sports as Brady and Manning are. Kobe Bryant and Lebron James are, both are black athletes, one was accused of **** and the other is pretty much universally hated.

And don't put your head in the sand, the NBA is mostly seen as a "black" sport, the NFL is not, even though there are A LOT of black players in it.

I love basketball and I think all of this is VERY VERY VERY sad, but we have to face the truth, there is a big racial issue in the way the NBA is perceived. And that is breaking my heart because a dozen of thugs make a whole sport, heck, in the mind of some retards, a whole "race" look bad.
Agree 100% with this post. The NBA is seen as a "black" league and unfortunately there's still a lot of racism out there.

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Can't remember the last time, basketball fans were sitting on the court?

Fact is, **** is thrown all the time in football games (hello the Dawg Pound! or Philadelphia). And yet no one has jumped into the stands to go after a fan.
Court-side seats are pretty much two feet away from the court. The closest fan to the action in football is, what, 30 feet from the END of the endzone?

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Court-side seats are pretty much two feet away from the court. The closest fan to the action in football is, what, 30 feet from the END of the endzone?
I think IIRC they are pretty close to the sidelines where players sit and stand.

For every Ron Artest there is a T.O...Haynsworth (though I can't see him motivated enough to go after a fan)

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Meh, he got in an altercation with someone else over a traffic incident, and has been accused of alleged sexual assault towards waitresses. He would get physical with fans.

Which reminds me, remember the time James Harrison ****ed up a fan who ran onto the field?


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Race has little to do with it ,, People loved Reggie Miller , Karl Malone , MJ , Mutumbo , Shaq , etc
Not everyone loved shaq and i doubt everyone loved those elbows karl malone threw

The problem is perception, sometimes built from the NBA itself. David Robinson was one of the nicest guys in all of sports, but he was never really given much media because he was in a small market and cause everyone saw him as being too soft. Doesn't help that the media stuffs it down people's throat and they take it for the word on everything.


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