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07-03-2011, 10:18 PM
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Theres a difference b/w cap hit and actual salary... its not the same thing. Capgeek gives you the cap-hit for the length of the contract but not actual salary break-down per year.
2nd column from the left is actual salary.

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07-03-2011, 10:32 PM
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Our Canadiens are too big, important and proud to circumvent the salary cap with front loaded jackets.

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I agree, I think Montreal Canadiens are playing safe so they can sign Price and Subban to long-term deals just to lock them in to help the team make a good contender while trying to build them around with strong players.

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Theres a difference b/w cap hit and actual salary... its not the same thing. Capgeek gives you the cap-hit for the length of the contract but not actual salary break-down per year.
as mentioned they have both, in the team page:
http://www.capgeek.com/charts.php?Team=2
you can click on the "actual salaries" button and see it for all players, in the individual players as mentioned its the 2nd column

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Why would Price and Subban get front-loaded contract at the age of 24 and 22? Those 8 years contract would bring them at 30-32 which is when they make the most money.. Why would they accept a paycuts when in fact they should be getting raises?

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Why would Price and Subban get front-loaded contract at the age of 24 and 22? Those 8 years contract would bring them at 30-32 which is when they make the most money.. Why would they accept a paycuts when in fact they should be getting raises?
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Front loaded contracts are for older players... Price and Subban will get long term deals but its doubtful their salaries will be different from the cap hit.

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Most of the long term contracts have imploded right into the teams' faces so far. Think of Gomez, Campbell, DiPietro, maybe even Luongo... They should be only signed for young superstars; the Crosbys, Ovechkins, Doughtys of the league. Not the Erik Coles and the Mike Cammalleris.

I love the way our GMs have worked on contracts. If you sign Brad Richards to 9 years but he starts declining after 3, if you buy him out, you're stuck with partial cap hit for 12 years. Not an option. You can bury him, but that's terrible management. The owner will not tolerate that sort of crap.

I'm absolutely not a fan of contracts over 5 years. It could be a good idea in Subban's case, as he still is very young. Price... He's a goalie. You have to be nuts to sign them to very long deals nowadays. Bryzgalov is a catastrophe waiting to happen... and I'm sure it won't take too long to happen either.

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Front loaded contracts are for older players... Price and Subban will get long term deals but its doubtful their salaries will be different from the cap hit.
For what it means. Just ask Richards and Carter.

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Front loaded contracts are for older players... Price and Subban will get long term deals but its doubtful their salaries will be different from the cap hit.
In addition, most of these contracts to players like Subban and Price will have NTC on them, making the trade option unlikely.

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Why would Price and Subban get front-loaded contract at the age of 24 and 22? Those 8 years contract would bring them at 30-32 which is when they make the most money.. Why would they accept a paycuts when in fact they should be getting raises?
If Price and Subban play the same way they did last year, I would be ready to give them 15 and 17 year contracts. I know I know, you don't like that but I don't want them to have a cap hit of 7-8M each for the following years.

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If Price and Subban play the same way they did last year, I would be ready to give them 15 and 17 year contracts. I know I know, you don't like that but I don't want them to have a cap hit of 7-8M each for the following years.
Giving them 15-17year deals only to skim 1 or 2M off the cap is simply not worth it.
I disagree with any contract going over 6years, and even then, I find that long.

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Yeah, I think it makes sense to offer 5-year contracts to Subban and Price so the management can see how they will help or harm the team's efforts to win the Cup during the five chances the team offers...

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Theres a difference b/w cap hit and actual salary... its not the same thing. Capgeek gives you the cap-hit for the length of the contract but not actual salary break-down per year.
Actually, it does give a year by year breakdown.

http://www.capgeek.com/players/display.php?id=529

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Front loaded contracts are for older players... Price and Subban will get long term deals but its doubtful their salaries will be different from the cap hit.
Price's might. I could see a 10-12 year contract for him which would take him past 35, and we could see a sliding scale on his salary.

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It's too early to say what are P.K's and Carey's contract will look like. It all comes down to this year.

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