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Buffalo - Tampa Bay (Stamkos)

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07-04-2011, 02:08 AM
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Buffalo - Tampa Bay (Stamkos)

To Buffalo:

- Stamkos


To Tampa Bay:

- Roy
- Ennis
- Sekera
- 2 First Round Picks
- One of Enroth/McNabb/Foligno/Kassian/Pysyk (Tampa's Choice)


Buffalo giving up a **** ton, but you have to for Stamkos.

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07-04-2011, 02:11 AM
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To Buffalo:

- Stamkos


To Tampa Bay:

- Roy
- Ennis
- Sekera
- 2 First Round Picks
- One of Enroth/McNabb/Foligno/Kassian/Pysyk (Tampa's Choice)


Buffalo giving up a **** ton, but you have to for Stamkos.
You and I just made almost identical threads at the same time lol.

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07-04-2011, 02:13 AM
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Ya just saw the Malkin thread lol.

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07-04-2011, 02:14 AM
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Almost exact same valuations, as well (extra 1st rounder instead of prospect on the Stamkos trade)

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07-04-2011, 02:17 AM
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Looking at that at a Sabres view I'd do that for Malkin or Stamkos. Funny how Roy becomes expendible with Leino.

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07-04-2011, 02:20 AM
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As a Sabres fan I would prefer to keep Roy, but I assume Tampa would rather have Roy instead of Pomminville + Adams.

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07-04-2011, 02:21 AM
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I dont think there needs to be prospects involved but I think this would be very risky for Buffalo. Why would he sign with us? One season and then we're out all those assets.

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07-04-2011, 02:24 AM
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The trade would be dependent on Stamkos having a deal in place with Buffalo.

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07-04-2011, 03:19 AM
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I'm way too high to give up Enroth and all that. I really think he has potential to be a top 10 goalie, will that be with the Sabres? Most likely no, but I think trading him now would be a mistake. Any of those other prospects and the deal listed, yeah i could do that.

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07-04-2011, 07:57 AM
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Sabres would have to figure out away to give up more salary. They wouldn't be able to sign him by just giving away Roy's salary. Plus they'd be handcuffed in trying to sign Myers next year even if they could move one of the salaries that are coming off the books next year like Hecht or Boyes. If they could move Pomminville in a salary dump type move it would be possible, but it's pretty far fetched.

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07-04-2011, 09:39 AM
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Or we just send him an offer sheet and not gut the team.

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07-04-2011, 09:42 AM
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Or we just send him an offer sheet and not gut the team.
...which Tampa would insta-match.

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07-04-2011, 09:46 AM
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You don't trade away half your team and expect one guy to win the cup for you. This is way too much to give up for just one guy.

Also, Roy is worth a lot more in trade, not only for his numbers, but for his very reasonable cap hit. We have already traded away two promising prospects. This trade would make it 3, plus Ennis and Sekera who could be a big part of the team's future as well. And two first rounders? You would have to get more than Stamkos in return. A lot more.

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07-04-2011, 09:50 AM
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Funny how Roy becomes expendible with Leino.
No he doesn't - not at all.

I don't do that deal from the Buffalo side. Way too much to give up. Stamkos is an awesome player, but no.

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...which Tampa would insta-match.
Yeah then they'll be paying a huge contract they couldn't afford.

That trade package is overpayment for Stamkos.

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07-04-2011, 10:16 AM
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That deal would gut the team. It's ridiculous.

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07-04-2011, 10:24 AM
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Sabres would have to figure out away to give up more salary. They wouldn't be able to sign him by just giving away Roy's salary. Plus they'd be handcuffed in trying to sign Myers next year even if they could move one of the salaries that are coming off the books next year like Hecht or Boyes. If they could move Pomminville in a salary dump type move it would be possible, but it's pretty far fetched.
Vanek, Pominville, ++

That should be enough salary freed up

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07-04-2011, 10:27 AM
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Offer Sheet him... would be cheaper for BUF. If they match go and try to get Vinny

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To get Stamkos you have to start with Myers and add a lot

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07-04-2011, 10:39 AM
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Nah, thanks.

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07-04-2011, 10:41 AM
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Yep, sorry. But if you want to even begin thinking about trading for Stamkos, even though he is not going anywhere, it starts with Myers and continues.

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07-04-2011, 12:07 PM
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No he doesn't - not at all.

I don't do that deal from the Buffalo side. Way too much to give up. Stamkos is an awesome player, but no.
Agreed. The deal makes no sense. If you want him, just put in an offer sheet that TB can not match. We could easily trade Roy for a 1st round pick I would guess. His point totals are there and there is an incredible shortage of centers for the amount of teams looking for one.

If you actually pried Stamkos away through an offer sheet, you would be giving up the four 1st round picks. With this trade proposal, you are giving them two 1sts, plus Roy who could get a first, and Pysyk and Kassian were firsts. There is the four firsts you are trading.

It would make way more sense to just present the offer sheet, see if you get him and then trade off the pieces to replenish the picks if you wanted to.

There is no need for this trade. Offer sheet would be the way to go. Even if TB matched it, so what. That just cash straps them. I honestly would not feel terrible about doing it to them either. I am sick of teams stocking up on elite talent because they continuously suck. Like Pittsburgh. They were terrible and wound up with elite talent consecutive years in a row.

The heck with it.

If you want Stamkos, put in the offer sheet.

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07-04-2011, 12:11 PM
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To get Stamkos you have to start with Myers and add a lot
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Yep, sorry. But if you want to even begin thinking about trading for Stamkos, even though he is not going anywhere, it starts with Myers and continues.
No it doesn't start with Myers. Myers is just as much of a wanted player as Stamkos. Why not just give him an offersheet at 10mil per.... see how Tampa reacts to that.

I'm not saying Roy is expendable.... the exact opposite.... I'm surpised at how Sabres fans are just willing to trade our top center away so easily because Leino is there. If they trade him in an upgrade (Malkin, Stamkos, Spezza) then great.

IMO this deal isn't too much for a team that wants to win now.

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07-04-2011, 12:12 PM
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If it doesn't start with Myers then it's safe to say Stamkos wouldn't be going to Buffalo.

Star players aren't available for just your team's scraps and bad contracts with a 1st rounder or two thrown in for sprinkles on top.

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07-04-2011, 12:15 PM
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If it doesn't start with Myers then it's safe to say Stamkos wouldn't be going to Buffalo.

Star players aren't available for just your team's scraps and bad contracts with a 1st rounder or two thrown in for sprinkles on top.
You have to understand, every teams fans will try and give up the least amount possible to acquire a big name.

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