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07-05-2011, 10:27 AM
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I hope he signs with the Bolts so this will die.

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I can't wait for Stamkos to sign this contract
That wont stop it...

All these rumors lately have been turning some of us into leafs fans.

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07-05-2011, 10:33 AM
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If Stevie Y doesn't demand Giroux in return, then it's a fail on his part.
If Steve Y doesn't sign Stamkos, then it's a fail on his part.

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If Steve Y doesn't sign Stamkos, then it's a fail on his part.
That's not entirely in his hands.

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I am looking forward to people saying **** YOU HOLMGREN for not going after Stamkos when he signs with TB

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If Steve Y doesn't sign Stamkos, then it's a fail on his part.



Stevie Y doesn't fail often, I'm not going to hold my breath waiting for it. If he doesn't get signed I can't imagine it being Yzerman's fault. I'm pretty sure he's got orders from above and a budget, he'll do what's best for his franchise. It'll be whether or not SS agent wants to play ball. I think whatever the result it won't be Yzerman who's held accountable.

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You guys do realize that if Bob is traded and Bryz gets hurt, MFL is our goalie, right?

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You guys do realize that if Bob is traded and Bryz gets hurt, MFL is our goalie, right?


He won't even get the chance to play himself out of that role IMO.

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You guys do realize that if Bob is traded and Bryz gets hurt, MFL is our goalie, right?
Doubtful. There's gotta be some guy on the street who wouldn't mind making 600k and could do it better.

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You guys do realize that if Bob is traded and Bryz gets hurt, MFL is our goalie, right?
Not if we sign Emery to a backup role or trade a pick to NYI for Nabby and his 570k contract.

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You guys do realize that if Bob is traded and Bryz gets hurt, MFL is our goalie, right?
Turco and Emery are still out there.

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You guys do realize that if Bob is traded and Bryz gets hurt, MFL is our goalie, right?
no that is the wrong answer as well. we will have to sign a guy off the street because someone will claim Leighton for half price with this being his final year of his current contract.

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07-05-2011, 10:56 AM
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I can't wait for Stamkos to sign this contract
sign and trade?

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sign and trade?
If they do get him under contract there is no point in trading him.

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That's not entirely in his hands.
But not asking specifically for Giroux is?

I can see why they would ask for Giroux, but just because they dont doesnt mean it's a fail. Stamkos > Giroux, and them not signing Stamkos will be more ill willed then not asking for Giroux.

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But not asking specifically for Giroux is?
I am assuming that Stevie Y's brain is directly linked to the things he says and does.

If the Flyers say, "No" then you move on. There is no way he should trade Stamkos for a pile of young players.

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07-05-2011, 11:04 AM
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I am assuming that Stevie Y's brain is directly linked to the things he says and does.

If the Flyers say, "No" then you move on. There is no way he should trade Stamkos for a pile of young players.
Well, I guess he can get what he can get. I thought rule's were that, if someone puts in an offer on Stamkos, picks will be compensated. I guess to me, Id take the young more proven players than 4 1st picks.

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Well, I guess he can get what he can get. I thought rule's were that, if someone puts in an offer on Stamkos, picks will be compensated. I guess to me, Id take the young more proven players than 4 1st picks.
Why not just match?

If someone was going to come in with a monster offer, I think it would have happened already. So, essentially, Stamkos and co. have very little leverage other than waiting TB out and it is almost a sure thing that the contract will be "reasonable" as these things go in the NHL.

I'd rather just have Stamkos if I was Yzerman... and that's what is almost surely going to happen at this point unless Stamkos has decided he simply doesn't want to be in TB anymore and was hoping for an offer sheet to force the issue. His only option at this point is to make it clear that he doesn't want to re-sign with the Bolts and request that they work out a trade with someone he does want to sign with.

TB really doesn't have the screws put to it right now at all.

Personally, I find Yandle much more appealing as a potential target.

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07-05-2011, 11:19 AM
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It costs the flyers nothing to send stamkos an offer. Actually might help stevie Y. Say the flyers offer him 8per, for 7 years, he signs it, stevie Y matches it, stamkos either gets the money he wants or refuses to sign with the bolts, then we talk trade. So stevie Y can say it wasn't about the money its that he didn't want to be there. Stevie Y saves face, and homer looks brilliant, somehow.

I think next year might be a better year to go after RFA's. The floor probably won't be rising as much as it did this year(the NHLPA also used their kicker), and the small markets will be already tapped out from this year. Makes the jagr signing a smart move.


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It costs the flyers nothing to send stamkos an offer. Actually might help stevie Y. Say the flyers offer him 8per, for 7 years, he signs it, stevie Y matches it, stamkos either gets the money he wants or refuses to sign with the bolts, then we talk trade. So stevie Y can say it wasn't about the money its that he didn't want to be there. Stevie Y saves face, and homer looks brilliant, somehow.
When you factor in all of our contracts at the moment (not to mention the yet unsigned Simmonds), I'm not sure we have the ability to do that.

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07-05-2011, 11:32 AM
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I can't imagine any deal for Stamkos that doesn't involve Giroux or JVR - possibly both. If somehow the Flyers are presented with an offer that doesn't involve those guys, they'd almost be foolish not to jump on it.

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I can't imagine any deal for Stamkos that doesn't involve Giroux or JVR - possibly both. If somehow the Flyers are presented with an offer that doesn't involve those guys, they'd almost be foolish not to jump on it.
If they want Giroux, I'd do it straight up... but I wouldn't give 'em anything else of serious value. The cap difference alone (as Meltzer actually outlined in his blog today) makes it pretty fair value in total.

And as much as people may love Giroux, the hardest commodity to get in the NHL is goals... and Stamkos is going to score a lot more goals than Giroux.

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Giroux would be requested no doubt and should on their part but then if the Flyers did that exchange with whatever else they gave them (certainly not JVR) then they would be screwing themselves with the cap again. Stamkos is def better than Giroux but his contract will not be. Stamkos is just too costly. Flyers will present an offer but I doubt they get into a bidding war. LA would probably offer more like Doughty and Bernier...

If LA got Stamkos... Richards would def get a cup sooner than the Flyers...

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Homer has actually played it kinda smart UFA wise and not bought into the lunacy. Jagr may flop, but it's only 1 year of bad money not 4 or 6

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Homer has actually played it kinda smart UFA wise and not bought into the lunacy. Jagr may flop, but it's only 1 year of bad money not 4 or 6
Eh, he hasn't done anything terrible... but 5 years for Talbot is a bit much, IMO... and no one is going to really want Lilja for 2 years.

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