Officeglen on the main trade board posted Garroich's latest column.I'd rather not see Parrish dealt,especially not in a salary dump.
I'd like to see a Weimer for Guatheir deal.I think they make about the same amount,but taking on Guatheir's salary kind of defeats the purpose of dumping Weimer's salary :p
I would be shocked if you can get Gauthier for Weimer.
If Scatchard is out any length of time, Weimer is your third-line center, BTW.
I take this report with a grain of salt. If NYI struggles during the season, I could see them unloading a couple of salaries later on, but that article suggests that they are placing reduction of payroll over winning...on October 19th! If that was the case, they would have made more moves over the summer.
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I know that some detest veteran players, but if the Isles have a good first several months, I could definitely see a deadline trade for Peter Bondra. Just a hunch, and I know some would hate the idea of giving up any young player or picks, but that is what teams that think they have a chance for a playoff run do.
At this point in time, it would make no sense, however, come March , Bondra's salary for this season will be virtually paid off, and he would add a quick shot of explosive offense to the second line on LW (he plays both sides). And, he would come cheap, if Washington is looking to unload at that point.
Officeglen on the main trade board posted Garroich's latest column.I'd rather not see Parrish dealt,especially not in a salary dump.
I'd like to see a Weimer for Guatheir deal.I think they make about the same amount,but taking on Guatheir's salary kind of defeats the purpose of dumping Weimer's salary :p
What's this we hear about the Flames offering around D Denis Gauthier? There's talk the Leafs might be interested
Wiemer would be the only guy I'd try to unload on the team, but even he plays an important part in sticking up for his teammates. But if we could get a good return by trading him and maybe Hunter or a pick, I say do it.
But I'm not for trading Parrish at all. The team looks like they are all on the same page, and are all sticking up for each other. The Parrish/Peca combo is looking better and better each game. I'd be shocked and realy PO'd if Parrish was dealt, no matter who he brings back in return.
Perhaps you equate a guy toiling in the AHL, who could not make the squad out of camp, and a "veteran" of two NHL games (and about a dozen shifts), with Weimer. I don't.
Likewise, neither Mapletoft, Bergenheim or Bates provides the size typically required down the middle for a 3rd line checking center in the Eastern Conference. Short-term replacement, perhaps. That's it. If Scatchard is out for an extended period of time, no.
Weimer is poor on faceoffs and much better suited for wing. However, currently he is a clear choice over the others mentioned, for the reasons provided.
Perhaps you equate a guy toiling in the AHL, who could not make the squad out of camp, and a "veteran" of two NHL games (and about a dozen shifts), with Weimer. I don't.
Likewise, neither Mapletoft, Bergenheim or Bates provides the size typically required down the middle for a 3rd line checking center in the Eastern Conference. Short-term replacement, perhaps. That's it. If Scatchard is out for an extended period of time, no.
Weimer is poor on faceoffs and much better suited for wing. However, currently he is a clear choice over the others mentioned, for the reasons provided.
Obviously, I'm banking on Scatch not being out for most of the season. If the guys I mentioned provided everything Scatch does, then one of them would be the permanent 3rd line center.
But as a short-term solution, maybe 1-3 weeks, I think one of them, especially Bates, would be more then capable of filling that role.
Wiemer wont bring Gauthier . In my opinion 3/4 round draft pick at best
I partially disagree. Wiemer could easily bring a 2nd in return, and Gauthier has not played well and his market value is down. On the other hand, physical vet defenders are overvalued on the market right now. Ultimately, I think that Wiemer is worth more than you suggest, but Gauthier is worth more than Wiemer.
7 months ago Garroich reported the isles rejected the Sens offer of Gleason for Weimer.
we'll see.
You're leaving out a key fact.....Ottawa could not get Gleason signed and he was eligible to re-enter the draft last year, so Ottawa was going to lose Gleason for nothing, if they couldn't move him at the deadline. Obviously this depreciated(sp?) Gleason's value considerably.
Parrish isn't being moved for a Dman. No way, no how. This teams glaring problem is lack of scoring wingers. Unless, that is, there is a deal on tap for Hamerlik for a winger. Doubtful.
You're leaving out a key fact.....Ottawa could not get Gleason signed and he was eligible to re-enter the draft last year, so Ottawa was going to lose Gleason for nothing, if they couldn't move him at the deadline. Obviously this depreciated(sp?) Gleason's value considerably.
I thought the rule was a team that lost a 1st rounder back into the draft,got a conditional 2nd.
I thought the rule was a team that lost a 1st rounder back into the draft,got a conditional 2nd.
conditional? or compensatory?
Well than maybe the person who suggested Weimer is worth a 2nd rounder was right(According to Ottawa)......but keep in mind compensatory picks are usually added to the end of each round, so it would be more like a 3rd rounder.
Well than maybe the person who suggested Weimer is worth a 2nd rounder was right(According to Ottawa)......but keep in mind compensatory picks are usually added to the end of each round, so it would be more like a 3rd rounder.
The isles had all three of their 2003 2nd round picks pushed back because the nhl gave out compensatory picks.
Doesn't sound like teams losing unsigned 1st rounders, were made to pick at the end of the 2nd.
http://www2.nhl.com/futures/2003draf...der061703.html
Very true, I guess my memory failed me , it appears they just randomly assign spots for compensatory picks.(regardless of round #)
Here's to a simpler CBA in the future, for people like me.
Welcome me to your boards; long-time reader, first time responder. I'm from the Ottawa area and know all too well about Bruce Garrioch's 'Rumours de Jour'. This guy is a joke! He has always had it in for Milbury and Yashin and never misses a chance at a cheapshot to the Islanders organization. His articles consistently lack basis and are so pro-Ottawa it's ridiculous.
Being a long-time Islanders fan in this area is tough and lonely but wouldn't have it any other way. Nothing better than to have a rematch this spring with the Sens . Eliminate them and listen to the media make excuses for their failure again. To add insult, Yashin scores winner!
http://www2.nhl.com/futures/2003draf...der061703.html
Very true, I guess my memory failed me , it appears they just randomly assign spots for compensatory picks.(regardless of round #)
Here's to a simpler CBA in the future, for people like me.
Yeah it is confusing.
I was unhappy with the way this yr's extra picks pushed the isles picks back because 2 picks before the isles last second rounder,the Wild took Patrick O'Sullivan.
Welcome me to your boards; long-time reader, first time responder. I'm from the Ottawa area and know all too well about Bruce Garrioch's 'Rumours de Jour'. This guy is a joke! He has always had it in for Milbury and Yashin and never misses a chance at a cheapshot to the Islanders organization. His articles consistently lack basis and are so pro-Ottawa it's ridiculous.
Being a long-time Islanders fan in this area is tough and lonely but wouldn't have it any other way. Nothing better than to have a rematch this spring with the Sens . Eliminate them and listen to the media make excuses for their failure again. To add insult, Yashin scores winner!
, it appears they just randomly assign spots for compensatory picks.(regardless of round #)
