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07-05-2011, 09:44 PM
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The Wayne Simmonds lack-of-signing so far..

What does it say to everyone?

Is it that they just haven't agreed on a deal yet or does it mean something bigger? Personally i'm on the latter half...I mean how difficult could these negotiations be for the kid that they can't agree on a contract? I really think the Flyers are/want to work on a trade and use Simmonds as trade bait. The Flyers wouldn't let one of the guys they got for their captain just walk away without ever playing for them would they? What does everyone think?

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The lack of movement makes me think something is up. It's not like he's Stamkos or Doughty, he's a relatively unproven 3rd liner who won't command a huge salary. We may never see him in orange and black.

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What does it say to everyone?

Is it that they just haven't agreed on a deal yet or does it mean something bigger? Personally i'm on the latter half...I mean how difficult could these negotiations be for the kid that they can't agree on a contract? I really think the Flyers are/want to work on a trade and use Simmonds as trade bait. What does everyone think?
They have not agreed on a deal right now. I think that if there is a trade in the making I do not believe that Simmer will be included. He is what we need on the wing.

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I'd guess there's just a contract dispute still. I'd be pretty surprised if they traded him. I want to see him in the Orange next year. He's pretty much the ideal 3rd liner.

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Flyers management seem unwilling to overpay for players; they probably have a set number or cap hit they are sticking with; likewise, Simmonds and his agent have their numbers in mind; eventually they'll work it out; he's an RFA, so Simmonds doesnt really have much leverage. but, if this drags on for a while, then you may begin to question if there is something more going on; for now, no worries.....

Flyers management did not seem willing to to overpay for Leino, do you thing they will overpay for the RFA, Simmonds?

Maybe also the organization has a little bit of a black eye, in the eyes of players, after trading away their two franchise players, signed to long contracts; players may be questioning the trustworthiness of the organization....


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I think there could be a deal in place, just not signed yet due to the fact they may want wiggle room.

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They're watching the goings-on before committing the cash.

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Powe didn't sign until today, but it does appear to be another Byzgalov situation.

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I think there could be a deal in place, just not signed yet due to the fact they may want wiggle room.
wiggle room? we have $4m in cap space. no way Simmonds signs for THAT much

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It could be they had other priorities and just haven't gotten to it yet...
It could be Simmonds is holding out for a better deal, and the Flyers are playing a game of chicken
It could be they don't want to committ too much salary to next year yet and are waiting out the market to see if something falls into their lap
It could be they are working out a long term deal, more complicated than the standard RFA contract

It could be a lot of things, we just don't know.

Keep in mind, it took Powe till late July to sign last year.

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there has to be a trade in the works

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My guess? There's a short term deal that's been worked out...but they're trying to sign something longer term. Even if there was a trade being considered, he likely has more value as a signed player than an unsigned player.

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It will be done in the next couple days.

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Keep in mind that it was a long weekend because of the Holiday. That could be a reason in the delay. Management and/or reps from the player's side could be elsewhere.

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I think the long weekend, the million trades, and the draft have all delayed his signing. I see no need to panic.

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He's going to be a flyer. They set up the press conference to show him off to the fans. It's the same as Schenn will be on the roster opening night.

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He's going to be a flyer. They set up the press conference to show him off to the fans. It's the same as Schenn will be on the roster opening night.
I think you are spot on with that analysis sir. I agree with Schenn being on the team as well. If not as a center at the wing.

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So what’s the hold-up with Simmonds? Neither side will say.

“Moving along,” said Flyers general manager Paul Holmgren. Slowly, it seems, although Holmgren added there were no particular issues holding the deal up.

“I would say we’ve had positive discussions and they are on-going,” said LA-based agent Eustace King, who represents Simmonds.

“I can’t comment on what happens in the future. We’re going to continue to have discussions with Flyers. They have a first class organization. They do a great job. They’ve been very competitive and strong over the last couple of years, one of the best teams in the National Hockey League.”

King would not say whether the snag concerns money, length of years, or how the Flyers perceive Simmonds' role and what they’re willing to pay him to perform that role.

“We’ll continue to see where this takes us,” King said. “Continue to better understand what their thoughts and visions of Wayne are and they will have a better understanding of what our thoughts are and what the landscape is for him in the future.”

That sounds like the agent and team can’t agree on what role Simmonds plays within the framework of a team that has undergone a massive facelift this summer and what the Flyers are willing to pay for that role.

“I’m not at liberty to have that discussion,” King replied when asked if that was indeed the sticking point.

He did reiterate that the talks are “positive” and he’s not frustrated with getting a contract done. Two Flyers sources said they fully expect a signed deal “soon.”

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the wait is over, Simmonds is signed. Multi year extension. Just got the text update.

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yAY hoping for a really good cap number here.. im feeling 1.6 a year haha optimistic but possible

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finally...can't wait to see this guy in the orange and black.

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Great news, hopefully its a good cap hit.

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Simmonds puts the Black in Orange and Black.

Too racist?

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We signed him to multiple years!! Cant wait to hear numbers.

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