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07-06-2011, 11:21 AM
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burke is a lawyer and answered his questions as such.

he said "not comtemplating an offer sheet" RIGHT NOW...

the greporter asked , "any time"

he said no not any time, did i say that? right now we are not compemtlating an offer sheet...\


he said the exact same thing with kessel, but honestly i look at our line up and... we dont "need" a stamkos ... kessel and stamkos are the same player.. pure snipers, kesel with st louis and boom 50+ goals....


we need an elite playmaking C not a sniper... at the very least we need a great TWF ala, crosby were he is beast scoring/passing/defense..... unless we were to get stamkos and flip him + for crosby :p but now i am just dreaming NHL 11 style.... now i would love to have stammer, but for what it will cost to get him and what we actually need in a #1 C i dont want to aquire him.

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I'm guessing from the tweets and recaps that no one asked if Connolly is in fact healthy (I assume they put him through a physical before the trade was official)?

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07-06-2011, 11:23 AM
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didnt connolly play a few games atthe end of the season for buffalo?

and no, no ones asked about connolly.

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07-06-2011, 11:25 AM
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What happens if Stamkos simply doesn't sign? Does he remain owned by Tampa?

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07-06-2011, 11:25 AM
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Really? How did we get Kessel then?

Not that I disagree that Stamkos to the Leafs is a pipe dream.
Stamkos > Kessel

Lets not get silly.

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07-06-2011, 11:28 AM
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Hmm idk, I think boyce is a bit more skilled and better two way. Doesn't quite have the heart of brent but his numbers were better after only half a season.
Brent is a true center and could take faceoffs. Boyce scored well but look at the shooting pct. He is unlikely to duplicate this kind of touch, esp between Orr and Brown. They need an actual #4 center. Boyce as a bottom 6 winger can spot in, but in that role I would prefer they look at Caput or Mueller.

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07-06-2011, 11:32 AM
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Stamkos > Kessel

Lets not get silly.
No doubt about that and the chance is probably zero that we will acquire Stamkos but the situation is different only in the caliber of players involved.

Kessel is definitely at least a notch below Stamkos, but if Stamkos doesn't want to sign a new contract in TB, I can't see how this will not result in TB being forced to trade him.

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07-06-2011, 11:34 AM
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As far as I know, we don't have reason to believe he doesn't want to sign in Tampa. Just because a deal isn't done yet doesn't mean he's packing his bags. Schenn isn't signed yet, is he on his way out?

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07-06-2011, 11:35 AM
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didnt connolly play a few games atthe end of the season for buffalo?

and no, no ones asked about connolly.
I think that would've been a question to ask, instead of the idiotic questions about Stamkos. I mean, do you really think he's going to answer definitively about an offer sheet? How about a useful question about the health of our new #1C?

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07-06-2011, 11:38 AM
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It's impossible to know.

He may of made a trade inquiry, But we won't know for a while.
Or necessarily ever. No reason to mention such an inquiry. All it would do is make Grabo and Connolly nervous. He may well think the whole Stamkos thing is just trying to use an offer sheet and leverage to force up the contract with Tampa. BB is all about keeping the market low so no way he plays agents games when the guy may have no interest in a change of scenery.

*Re: Schenn does anyone else think they are just waiting for Doughty and Bogo to sign and set the market?

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07-06-2011, 11:44 AM
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No doubt about that and the chance is probably zero that we will acquire Stamkos but the situation is different only in the caliber of players involved.

Kessel is definitely at least a notch below Stamkos, but if Stamkos doesn't want to sign a new contract in TB, I can't see how this will not result in TB being forced to trade him.
How do you know Stamkos wants out of Tampa Bay? The only things KNOWN right now is that they are still motivated to work on a contract (much the opposite of the Kessel/Chia debacle).

Oh, Kessel is MANY notches below Stamko - which is why these are such different situations.

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didnt connolly play a few games atthe end of the season for buffalo?

and no, no ones asked about connolly.
Groin, nasal surgury, and hip injury were most of his days off, spread around quite a bit. The TSN players section lists the disabilities. He played 6 playoff games before going off with what TSN calls a head injury. I think the Sabres board said it was actually a cracked sternum or something like that. The NHL.com game by game stats in Connolly's player section will give you a list of the game dates he was healthy for.

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http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=371119

My edited version of this new TSN article: http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=371119

TORONTO - Brian Burke has no interest in making the Toronto Maple Leafs better.

Burke missed out on a legit No. 1 center in free agency because they were unwilling to offer a competitive contract.

Burke also indicated his ego has gotten in the way of adding high-end talent to the leafs by extending an offer sheet to restricted free agents Steven Stamkos and Drew Doughty.

Even still, the Leafs GM says he's confident the team will not make the playoffs, again.
You, sir, are a joke.

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07-06-2011, 11:51 AM
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Or necessarily ever. No reason to mention such an inquiry. All it would do is make Grabo and Connolly nervous. He may well think the whole Stamkos thing is just trying to use an offer sheet and leverage to force up the contract with Tampa. BB is all about keeping the market low so no way he plays agents games when the guy may have no interest in a change of scenery.

*Re: Schenn does anyone else think they are just waiting for Doughty and Bogo to sign and set the market?

Thats exactly what will happen. Schenn's agent will wait till the very end when everyone is signed to squeeze Burke for top dollars. Thats what agents get paid to do!

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07-06-2011, 11:52 AM
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is there a link to the audio/video? it'd be much appreciated!

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07-06-2011, 11:54 AM
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No doubt about that and the chance is probably zero that we will acquire Stamkos but the situation is different only in the caliber of players involved.

Kessel is definitely at least a notch below Stamkos, but if Stamkos doesn't want to sign a new contract in TB, I can't see how this will not result in TB being forced to trade him.
Stamkos is good but he won't be as productive offensively without St.Louis and vice versa.

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07-06-2011, 12:15 PM
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Stamkos > Kessel

Lets not get silly.
ok. i also think that stamkos > kessel easily.

but the 'silly' remark, i think is unfounded. how many goals does stamkos get playing with bozak? you tell me.

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07-06-2011, 12:22 PM
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Starts off with video on Lombardi, but you can select any you want to watch.


EDIT: Sort of Rhyming headlines on The Star:

Kadri on Wing, Reimer in the net; Maple Leafs all set.


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07-06-2011, 12:27 PM
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ok. i also think that stamkos > kessel easily.

but the 'silly' remark, i think is unfounded. how many goals does stamkos get playing with bozak? you tell me.
I was more so relating the two players as an RFA.

Stamkos holds FAR more value than Kessel did in 2008 (or 09? I forget the year)

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07-06-2011, 02:25 PM
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I was more so relating the two players as an RFA.

Stamkos holds FAR more value than Kessel did in 2008 (or 09? I forget the year)
Not disagreeing with anything you're saying but I never said that Stamkos didn't want to play in TB, I said IF he didn't want to continue negotiations on a new contract for his current team ala Kessel.


And yes, obviously Stamkos is in another stratsosphere as far as hockey players go when compared to Kessel but a trade could still happen. The longer this drags on, the more encouraging the prospect of a trade becomes.

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Stamkos is good but he won't be as productive offensively without St.Louis and vice versa.
No doubt about that. We would need someone like Liles to feed him the puck on the PP so that he could get that one-timer off.

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07-06-2011, 03:28 PM
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Burke said he isn't considering an Offer Sheet at this time. To me that means absolutely nothing when it comes to Stamkos.

He could still be pursuing a trade, and of course, in the Conference he specifically stated that he would consider an Offer Sheet in the future.

So again, that just means that at this moment, an Offer Sheet is not being tendered to Yzerman for Stamkos.

And why should it. Tampa has barely hit the Cap Floor. They can match any ridiculous offer they want.

The Leafs may be preparing a trade, or could be planning an Offer Sheet if it becomes a viable possibility.

Fans rode Burke for giving up two 1st Round picks to get Kessel, how will they behave when he doles out four to get Stamkos?

I'd much rather see Stamkos go to arbitration this year with Tampa, be awarded a 1-year contract and then come to the Leafs next year.

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07-06-2011, 03:31 PM
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Burke is on Leafs TV now.

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07-06-2011, 07:53 PM
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I'm happy with the off season additions. Burke looked at needs and addressed them.

The additions of Connolly, Liles, Franson and (if he ever plays) Lombardi are huge. We didn't fill up roster spots as we have in the past that can be given to developing players with Vets.

Aulie, Kadri, Reimer, Frattin, Boyce and Colborne all have a opportunity to prove their worth without a veteran standing in their way.

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07-06-2011, 08:29 PM
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*Re: Schenn does anyone else think they are just waiting for Doughty and Bogo to sign and set the market?
makes sense, schenn would be looking at a contract right between what those two would get.

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