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07-06-2011, 02:57 PM
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Its a shame I didn't get any of the first group...but #38 Oliver Lauridsen which isnt in any of these videos was really surprising me... very solid on D.

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Who was 55? I thought he was pretty solid.
Tyler Hostetter. I wasnt really focused on him, so I cant comment.

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Who was 55? I thought he was pretty solid.
Tyler Hostetter.

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Tyler Hostetter. I wasnt really focused on him, so I cant comment.
Ah ok. He looked strong during that drill when the puck was stationary. Curious to see him in drills that involve a bit more movement.

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Rookie watch activated. He shall carry the spirit of Carter and Richards with him at all times!

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Rookie watch activated. He shall carry the spirit of Carter and Richards with him at all times!
Seems to have better taste, too.

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Seems to have better taste, too.
Always liked beach bunnies vs bar flies.

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07-06-2011, 04:00 PM
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Remember when Holmgren said the ideal would be to carry 8 defensemen because you can never have enough?

I'm holding him to that.
Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to keep Gustafsson in the AHL as the de facto 8th-defensemen-in-waiting so he can keep playing? He does no good sitting in the press box all year eating up cap space.

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Its a shame I didn't get any of the first group...but #38 Oliver Lauridsen which isnt in any of these videos was really surprising me... very solid on D.
Doesn't surprise me, I told everyone watch for him, with his size and his time developing he should be ready to make the leap soon.
If he does show he's ready I would like to see him as our 6th and LILJA as our 7th. A pairing of Him and Meszaros would be monstrous.
I have him 9th on my list of prospects:
1) Brayden Schenn
2) Sean Couturier
3) Matt Read
4) Brendan Ranford
5) Erik Gustafsson
6) Tom Sestito
7) Eric Wellwood
8) Tye McGinn
9) Oliver Lauridsen
10) Joonas Lehtivuori

Too young to list but honorable mention to look for:

Petr Placek our 6th round draft pick will be known as a great steal in this draft.

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I can say, from the videos posted on here, I was probably most impressed with Gustafsson, Wellwood and Holmstrom. They seem to move extremely well, use their size and have great control. Am I the only one on those deking things in the first video that Read looked really stiff? Even Noebels looked smoother than him.

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07-06-2011, 04:18 PM
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Remember when Holmgren said the ideal would be to carry 8 defensemen because you can never have enough?

I'm holding him to that.
Why would you believe anything that falls out of Holmgren's mouth?

Wait, so Schenn drinks and hangs out with girls in the summer? TRADE HIS ASS. TRADE HIM NOW.

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07-06-2011, 04:33 PM
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Its a shame I didn't get any of the first group...but #38 Oliver Lauridsen which isnt in any of these videos was really surprising me... very solid on D.
Between yourself, another 2 boards I lurk on, and the guys I follow on Twitter that makes 9 or so people today who have mentioned they were impressed with him. Wouldn't it be something if we actually developed one these "he's a big guy" prospects? The dude is bigger than Pronger. You'd have to assume at his size and lack of experience he's a few years away but it wouldn't take much to be 2nd or 3rd on our d depth chart among prospects.

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07-06-2011, 05:03 PM
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You can't really take away much that is useful about these players until the scrimmages, and even that is iffy

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You can't really take away much that is useful about these players until the scrimmages, and even that is iffy
Eh, I disagree. You can see the players that are skill and those that are not. As a coach of a sports team, I find the drills as important as the scrimmages. You can tell the difference between those who are highly regarded on the team vs. those who are not.

Like the "bear" drill. Being able to hold a guy twice your size is an accomplishment. Yea, it doesnt that you can play in the NHL, but atleast you can see that the player can hold their own against certain other players.

Everything is iffy until they get a shot in the NHL. The thing is though, not everyone can get a free game to show what they can do in the NHL>

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07-06-2011, 05:42 PM
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I wouldn't read too much into read being stiff with the puck! I've had season tickets to the beavers and seen him play alot, it's def not a problem

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Eh, I disagree. You can see the players that are skill and those that are not. As a coach of a sports team, I find the drills as important as the scrimmages. You can tell the difference between those who are highly regarded on the team vs. those who are not.

Like the "bear" drill. Being able to hold a guy twice your size is an accomplishment. Yea, it doesnt that you can play in the NHL, but atleast you can see that the player can hold their own against certain other players.

Everything is iffy until they get a shot in the NHL. The thing is though, not everyone can get a free game to show what they can do in the NHL>
You can see the player X has good speed and player Y has good hands. You can get all of that from a scouting report.

What's really important is how these guys put these skills together and apply them in a game situation. At this level most of these guys have at least passable skills for an NHL level, IMO

Remember Lars Johnsson? That guy killed rookie camp and had some amazing skills. Couldn't play a lick at the NA pro level.

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07-06-2011, 06:55 PM
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You can see the player X has good speed and player Y has good hands. You can get all of that from a scouting report.

What's really important is how these guys put these skills together and apply them in a game situation. At this level most of these guys have at least passable skills for an NHL level, IMO

Remember Lars Johnsson? That guy killed rookie camp and had some amazing skills. Couldn't play a lick at the NA pro level.
I am pretty sure, that is the point of a scrimmage.

I would say sparring is the equivalent in boxing. Not a full fight, but you practice what you would do in an actual fight.

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Seems to have better taste, too.



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I am pretty sure, that is the point of a scrimmage.

I would say sparring is the equivalent in boxing. Not a full fight, but you practice what you would do in an actual fight.
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You can't really take away much that is useful about these players until the scrimmages, and even that is iffy

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First you say you cant truly gauge a player until the scrimmage, but then you say even that is iffy...


So which is it then?

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First you say you cant truly gauge a player until the scrimmage, but then you say even that is iffy...


So which is it then?
Is the statement really that hard to understand? Scrimmages give you better insight into a players overall game then drills do, but its still not a real game and with a real game comes along a lot of other factors that are just not present in a scrimmage. Especially when you are scrimmaging against your teammates. Therefore, even that is iffy.

Up until a year ago I attended a lot of Flyers rookie camps and I will tell you right now that the information gathered from that is closer to useless than it is useful. There were countless players that impressed at these things and couldn't hack it

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Hopefully, some of these guys will get a legit shot at staying with the big club. I wouldn't mind homer sitting on the cap space and giving some guys a good month or two.

I would like to see holstrom and sestito get a long look.

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Its a shame I didn't get any of the first group...but #38 Oliver Lauridsen which isnt in any of these videos was really surprising me... very solid on D.
BEARCLAW!!!! love to see him impressing at camp. i was surprised they signed him so early i thought for sure hed see the end of his ncaa eligibility.

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You can see the player X has good speed and player Y has good hands. You can get all of that from a scouting report.

What's really important is how these guys put these skills together and apply them in a game situation. At this level most of these guys have at least passable skills for an NHL level, IMO

Remember Lars Johnsson? That guy killed rookie camp and had some amazing skills. Couldn't play a lick at the NA pro level.
To be honest, he had serious injury problems.

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Why would you believe anything that falls out of Holmgren's mouth?

Wait, so Schenn drinks and hangs out with girls in the summer? TRADE HIS ASS. TRADE HIM NOW.
I, _____ ______, hockey player in the NHL do solemnly swear to not wet my dick between October and June.

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