My only issue with having Ott on that line is.. He compliments Benn but neither of them compliment Eriksson. Louie wasn't really all that explosive before we got Richards onto the scene, so without a playmaking center or winger I don't see how that line stays balanced. Ott and Benn make chances happen on their own (run and gun if you will) Louie usually needs to be set up.. I will say that it would be an incredibly good two-way line with tons of back checking.
Just think we're one playmaker away from having 4 really solid lines.
As far as D goes. Hannan I think would be a great addition especially for the playoff run because you know one of these guys will be injured. That opens the doorway for trading as well and I think this team can really benefit next trade deadline from that if we have a new owner in place.
loui's initial weakness wasn't a lack of richards. he just needed time to get stronger on his skates and learn to stay in front of the net, not behind it. while brichards certainly helped his learning curve, those aren't things loui's apt to suddenly forget. and i have no doubt that benn can feed him the puck, and also draw a fair amount of the defensive coverage towards himself ensuring that there will be plenty of space for loui to clean up rebounds and loose pucks.
I don't think he'll forget it either, I just think it'll be a telling year for sure.
I just see Benn as more of a loaner kind of goal scorer. Pure power forward to the core. Maybe that's bc that's how he was successful in Austin though.
Let's be real here, for the last couple of years there has barely been anyone worth passing to in Austin. It might just be because he'd be better off doing everything himself down there. I'm having a hard time remembering much about Benn's passing game, though.
If the organization is keen on trading Fistric, what would you guys think about the possibility of working some sort of deal with Edmonton for Omark? Edmonton needs a second pairing defenseman, and we need a 2nd line playmaker for Benn and Loui. I was pretty impressed with Omark's play towards the end of the season. He has great offensive instincts and is very creative in the offensive zone, not to mention he already has 5 years of pro hockey under his belt. I think he might have what it takes to make the step to NA hockey, and I think he could have have great chemistry with Loui.
I don't know that Fistric is enough to get Omark. Edmonton apparently wanted to get bigger, but you're giving up a ton of skill for just a decent defender on the bottom pair.
Plus ... Dallas also has gone into bigger is better mode so you have to imagine Omark isn't high on their list. He'd definitely be an interesting guy next to Benn and Eriksson.
I'm a fan of Fistric, and I don't really want him to go. He's fun to watch, but he's never really proven to be more than a 3rd pair D. His mobility makes it questionable that he can be a Top 4. Last year, I actually though he was better picking when to rush and moving the puck.
Omark has questionable upside as well, but I think he has more value than Fistric.
If you look at them now, not considering potential, a borderline Top 6 winger with a ton of skill is worth more than a physical 5th or 6th D, IMO. For potential, a skilled Top 6 winger who can score and setup teammates is more valuable that a physical 2nd pair D, IMO. They're close in value, and maybe Edmonton's desire for size could make them do a one for one, but Omark's ability and potential is more valuable.
I can't see Edmonton trading Omark for just Fistric... Maybe Fistric and a pick, fourth or something... But not just Fistric... Wouldn't mind being wrong though... A line with Omark-Benn-Eriksson sounds like it could be tonnes of fun...
I expect a mild falloff in Eriksson's goal scoring. I seem to remember him getting lots of goals on the backdoor from Richards' passes. Ribeiro is the only other guy on the team that can begin to make passes like that..
On the other hand, Loui also scores lots of goals by cleaning up rebounds. Benn will probably create at least as many of those as Richards did..
On Fiddler, I'll just guess $1.4/$2/$2. He's coming off earning $1.1.
Finally with Pardy, I'll just say $1.5/$2.5
If you assume Ryder just took $3.5 in cash per season and my guess on Fiddler and Pardy is accurate, Dallas would have about $50.52 million invested in the team.
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On Cap Geek, Ryder's contract has been update and shows Dallas will just pay him $3.5 million per season. Hopefully Cap Geek will update Fiddler and Pardy's info soon.
Cap Geek is now showing Pardy's details as being complete, and it looks like he did not sign a back-loaded contract. They are saying he'll earn $2 million/year.
That would push Dallas' payroll to $51.02 (still waiting for details on Fiddler/assuming he earns $1.4 right now).
What say you beautiful people about getting Brandon Dubinsky or Ryan Callahan to make the 2nd line with Benn and Loui??
Both have gone into arbitration with the NYR so if theres no deal for one/both, would they be available.. I'm sure both are looking for a top6 place for next year and we certainly are looking for one. Dubinsky would be quite "Neal-ish" for the little I've seen him and would be ideal for Loui I think..
Others in that arbitration list include Blake Wheeler, Sergei Kostitsyn and Lauri "korpisoturi" Korpikoski.. interested??
Arbitration for Dubinsky and Callahan sounds like a pretty good way to make sure they both are under contract in New York. I doubt we'd have a crack at either of them and if we did I doubt we'd have the moneys to get either.
If someone is on an arbitration list, you can't sign them to an offer sheet (not that Dallas would anyway).
The only shot you'd have is the team walking away from the arbitration award (not the player). NY would be absolutely insane to walk away from almost any deal handed out in arbitration. For the most part deals are predictable, reasonable, and often seem to favor the team more than the player. The only time arbitration numbers aren't reasonable is when a team gave a guy entirely too much money to begin with (Zherdev) and arbitrators aren't keen on slashing contracts considering the team already made a qualifying offer. That's when you end up with an overpaid player via arbitration.
My point is, it's pretty safe to say it's not a realistic wish to hope NY walks away from any arbitration award to either player.
OK it just seems NYR will have about 7 players competing the top6 spot(after Richie and Gaborik) and someone is bound to get pissed on Tortorella co. during the season.. Just thought Dubinsky might not make it and look for a new team even via trade..
So almost all of those players listed are going to sign an extension, right? All the good ones at least..
No .... arbitration is not an extension. The team gets a chance to ask for what they believe is a fair contract. Then the agent of the player presents his case for the value of the player. An arbitrator ultimately decides on the final cap hit/salary. In most cases, this is a one year contract. Players have the option of making it a 2 year deal, but I think they have to make that decision before the arbitration actually starts.
In most cases, a player will agree to a contract with the team before the process even begins. Regardless, they can only negotiate with their current team.
No .... arbitration is not an extension. The team gets a chance to ask for what they believe is a fair contract. Then the agent of the player presents his case for the value of the player. An arbitrator ultimately decides on the final cap hit/salary. In most cases, this is a one year contract. Players have the option of making it a 2 year deal, but I think they have to make that decision before the arbitration actually starts.
In most cases, a player will agree to a contract with the team before the process even begins. Regardless, they can only negotiate with their current team.
But what percent of those players actually signs a new deal with their team and doesn't change teams? And are those who can search a new deal somewhere else players like Dubinsky or more like Jannik Hansen(no offence)?
But what percent of those players actually signs a new deal with their team and doesn't change teams? And are those who can search a new deal somewhere else players like Dubinsky or more like Jannik Hansen(no offence)?
None of these players can search for a deal somewhere else. Once the team or player files for arbitration, they are only permitted to negotiate with their current team. Arbitration takes away the free agents ability to seek an offer sheet.
There is no option other than a trade before the arbitration hearing. After that, the team either has to accept the ruling or walk away allowing the player to become an UFA.
Never say never, but it's close to a fantasy to believe there's a chance NY allows Dubinsky or Callahan to become an unrestricted free agent. If a team wants them, they'll be trading for them before the arbitration hearing. They'll also pay full value since NY is guaranteed to have the players for at least 1 more year. The only thing NY doesn't control is the cap hit, but going to arbitration guarantees those 2 will at the very least have a one-year contract with the NY Rangers. The players only option is to sit the season out which is pretty ridiculous to think either one of those players would, IMO.
I think you're pretty confused about the rules of arbitration, restricted free agency and unrestricted free agency. NHL Cap Space was a great website that detailed the process, but they default to Cap Geek now. Cap Geek has some of the same information now, but their CBA info is not nearly as comprehensive as NHL Cap Space was.
