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07-07-2011, 11:15 AM
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Actually they are becoming more and more often if you have watched him in the past year.

And his contract isnt a problem so no problem to solve.

Thanks for your concern.
I've only played the game I've never had time to watch except from the bench between shifts

get real

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07-07-2011, 11:26 AM
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Isn't there a 25% salary roll back in the CBA coming up?
That would bring Lecavalier's salary down to a very manageable $5.78 Million.

With the cap going up the way it has been (average $5 million/annually) and the Leafs sucking the way they have been. I'd make this deal

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07-07-2011, 11:28 AM
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I've only played the game I've never had time to watch except from the bench between shifts

get real
Ummm what?

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07-07-2011, 01:19 PM
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The difference between the Richards and Carter situation was that the Flyers were looking to trade them and Tampa is not looking to trade Vinny. As I said earlier, the only value to Vinny that matters is the value that Tampa has of him, not of what other teams have of him. The Flyers had to trade Carter and Richards at the market value because they were looking to trade them, but the Lightning won't trade Vinny for anything less than what they want because they don't have to or are looking to trade him.
How do you know it to be fact that Tampa is not looking to trade Vinny? How many Flyers fans knew that Richards would be traded? The same day they trade Carter no less...nobody saw that coming.

"The Flyers had to trade Carter and Richards at market value..." no they didn't even have to trade them at all, especially both of them...So you think Philly had to trade those two yet you seem to know that Tampa won't trade Vinny for anything less thant they want?

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07-07-2011, 01:24 PM
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I've only played the game I've never had time to watch except from the bench between shifts

get real
So you are an NHL player?

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07-07-2011, 01:26 PM
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How do you know it to be fact that Tampa is not looking to trade Vinny? How many Flyers fans knew that Richards would be traded? The same day they trade Carter no less...nobody saw that coming.

"The Flyers had to trade Carter and Richards at market value..." no they didn't even have to trade them at all, especially both of them...So you think Philly had to trade those two yet you seem to know that Tampa won't trade Vinny for anything less thant they want?
To sign Bryzgalov, Jagr, and eventually Simmonds this season, JVR and Voracek next season, so yes they had to free up cap space to acquire the pieces that they acquired. Besides we heard a lot of rumblings involving Carter.

Have you heard anything about Vinny? No, and that is the point. If you have heard any rumors, more than likely he isn't being shopped. Richards is more of an exception than the rule, usually you will hear some rumblings before a deal happens. And with the rumblings that Stamkos is going to get locked up, I think that further supports my theory that Vinny isn't being shopped.

I can keep going on this as long as you want.

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07-07-2011, 01:30 PM
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How do you know it to be fact that Tampa is not looking to trade Vinny? How many Flyers fans knew that Richards would be traded? The same day they trade Carter no less...nobody saw that coming.

"The Flyers had to trade Carter and Richards at market value..." no they didn't even have to trade them at all, especially both of them...So you think Philly had to trade those two yet you seem to know that Tampa won't trade Vinny for anything less thant they want?
Vinny isn't going anywhere anytime soon. Besides, Tampa is not in any cap space constraints. Maybe he is asked to waive his NMC sometime in the future, but have hard time seeing it happen.

And just to mention about his down numbers the past few seasons, injuries will do that to a guy, not to mention all the fiasco surrounding this team prior to Vinik/Yzerman arriving in town. He finally appears to be fully healthy and is newly motivated under Boucher.

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07-07-2011, 01:42 PM
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To sign Bryzgalov, Jagr, and eventually Simmonds this season, JVR and Voracek next season, so yes they had to free up cap space to acquire the pieces that they acquired. Besides we heard a lot of rumblings involving Carter.

Have you heard anything about Vinny? No, and that is the point. If you have heard any rumors, more than likely he isn't being shopped. Richards is more of an exception than the rule, usually you will hear some rumblings before a deal happens. And with the rumblings that Stamkos is going to get locked up, I think that further supports my theory that Vinny isn't being shopped.

I can keep going on this as long as you want.
They could have traded Carter and signed Bryz...there was no gun to their head to dump Richards so that players like Jagr could be signed.

Did you hear the rumours of Phaneuf being traded to Toronto? No, and that is the point. The rumours are not always there.

Rumblings of Stamkos being locked up hardly supports anything, one way or another.

You can keep going but I'd like to see a valid point eventually.

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07-07-2011, 01:47 PM
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They could have traded Carter and signed Bryz...there was no gun to their head to dump Richards so that players like Jagr could be signed.

Did you hear the rumours of Phaneuf being traded to Toronto? No, and that is the point. The rumours are not always there.

Rumblings of Stamkos being locked up hardly supports anything, one way or another.

You can keep going but I'd like to see a valid point eventually.
I don't see where your valid point is or was.

Valid Point:
For the Flyers to have performed the off-season that they did they had to have traded Carter and Richards. The trades also give them more flexibility to make a deadline deal and re-sign JVR next season.

Considering that a lot of other people agreed with my assessment that Vinny is not on the market and it would take an overpayment to acquire him, I don't see why you are trolling me and what your point is.

Shall we continue Bert...

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07-07-2011, 01:52 PM
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Honestly, I think Tampa Bay would seriously consider dumping Lecavalier in order to sign Stamkos.

The price for him may not be as much as you may think.

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07-07-2011, 01:53 PM
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Honestly, I think Tampa Bay would seriously consider dumping Lecavalier in order to sign Stamkos.

The price for him may not be as much as you may think.
They don't have to cut salary to sign Stamkos, therefore Vinny would not be at a discount.

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07-07-2011, 01:54 PM
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I wouldn't want Vinny for free. Not even if they took Komisarek.

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Honestly, I think Tampa Bay would seriously consider dumping Lecavalier in order to sign Stamkos.

The price for him may not be as much as you may think.
Tampa doesn't have to cut salary to sign Stamkos, therefore Vinny would not be at a discount.

Sorry for the double post

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07-07-2011, 02:03 PM
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No thanks. Vinny is not worth that ridiculous salary.

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I wouldn't want Vinny for free. Not even if they took Komisarek.
Whats wrong with Vincent LeCavalier?

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Whats wrong with Vincent LeCavalier?
His cap hit for 10 years is disgusting.

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Whats wrong with Vincent LeCavalier?
His contract....that's whats wrong.

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07-07-2011, 02:11 PM
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Bang on !

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I find threads with the Leafs involved to be very comical because they are all the same.

1. Ask for a top player on a team and offer pieces that the other team doesn't want

2. Bicker that their players are worth more and the player that they are targeting isn't worth as much or isn't as good as they are.

3. Get in dumb arguments that eventually no one knows what they are arguing about.

Did I leave anything out?


Couldn't have said it better myself.


If Lecavalier has 3 or 4 great years left, and was to be either on the Leafs or Bolts for a best shot at a Cup run, no doubt in my mind he should stay put. I only give the Habs a marginally better shot than the Leafs for those who propose he be moved to Montreal.

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07-07-2011, 04:23 PM
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I don't see where your valid point is or was.

Valid Point:
For the Flyers to have performed the off-season that they did they had to have traded Carter and Richards. The trades also give them more flexibility to make a deadline deal and re-sign JVR next season.

Considering that a lot of other people agreed with my assessment that Vinny is not on the market and it would take an overpayment to acquire him, I don't see why you are trolling me and what your point is.

Shall we continue Bert...
No need to go on...you have convinced me on the following points:

1) Tampa has no desire or reason to trade Vinny and are content with his 7.37 million cap hit until he is 40.

2) If they were to trade him his price would be greater than that of Richards or Carter.

3) Leaf fans are clearly the ones over-valueing their players.

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07-07-2011, 05:00 PM
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No need to go on...you have convinced me on the following points:

1) Tampa has no desire or reason to trade Vinny and are content with his 7.37 million cap hit until he is 40.

2) If they were to trade him his price would be greater than that of Richards or Carter.

3) Leaf fans are clearly the ones over-valueing their players.
Well I can sense the immense amount of sarcasm in this post, but a win is a win. We should do this again sometime, it was fun.

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Lol, it would take an overpayment to acquire Lecavalier. Thats true, 2 or 3 years ago. I bet if/when he gets traded, it will be similar return as what NYR got for Gomez- at BEST.

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Do the Leafs want Dominic Moore too? Thompson?

TAKE ALL OUR CENTERS

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Lol, it would take an overpayment to acquire Lecavalier. Thats true, 2 or 3 years ago. I bet if/when he gets traded, it will be similar return as what NYR got for Gomez- at BEST.
Yeah but a lot of people agreed with his "assessment"

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The point is Vinny won't be traded.

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Ummm what?
just replying to the lamest retort thats consistently made on this site, the old "you never saw him play" gambit I will give you kudos though for your new twist on that old chestnut with the

if you have watched him in the past year


please!....... save that bull-puckey for the 13 year olds

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So you are an NHL player?
Serious question, are you often stuck for an answer when people say hello?

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