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07-07-2011, 03:10 PM
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i'd love if radulov came back. it would immediately take the team from good to cup contender.

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07-07-2011, 03:40 PM
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Just want to add, our defensive depth is sick. Blum will be a star, and Josi is supposedly just as good. Ellis can easily be another Franson at worst.
What if none of them make it? Never know, Ekholm could surprise us all. I think Laakso is this years Sulzer. Good tweener but never quite good enough to make it full time here.

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What if none of them make it? Never know, Ekholm could surprise us all. I think Laakso is this years Sulzer. Good tweener but never quite good enough to make it full time here.
Just shows you the depth. Obviously, whoever doesn't make it can tune their skills in Milwaukee.

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07-07-2011, 04:21 PM
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ugh i completely forgot about nikulin. wonder if he wants to play in winnipeg

seriously though
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07-07-2011, 05:29 PM
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I thought cube was allegedly making progress? He is signed for next year, right?

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07-07-2011, 05:44 PM
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I thought cube was allegedly making progress? He is signed for next year, right?
correct at the nominal price of 1.35 Mn

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07-07-2011, 08:00 PM
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correct at the nominal price of 1.35 Mn
Unless we trade Bouillon and Ellis to Montreal for future considerations

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07-07-2011, 09:37 PM
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I thought cube was allegedly making progress? He is signed for next year, right?
Yeah I found it odd for Poile to say that. I was penciling him in as a #5 guy. I guess he's not making progress after all

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My bet is on Josi-Ellis.
I second that and I think with the speed that Ellis has will more than make up for his lack of size

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07-08-2011, 10:40 AM
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Speed isn't much help when you're fightling Big Joe or Getzlaf in the corner. I look forward to seeing Ellis in Nashville, but he needs to add about 10-15 lbs. A year or at least part of a year in Milwaukee will be real important for him.

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07-08-2011, 10:51 AM
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Wasn't Suter a little undersized when we first brought him up, too? Put on a little muscle. Has learned the game. He's still just right at 200 - not small, but hardly the size of Getzlaf and some of these big Fs. But he does ok; while I'm not expecting Ellis to be that good, I think we can expect him to be big enough if he learns the game to handle the corners just fine.

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Blum is 178lbs and he has done perfectly well, Ellis is 173lbs so there is not much difference. (BTW I am trusting Wikipedia on this)

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[QUOTE=jlsg;34808571]Speed isn't much help when you're fightling Big Joe or Getzlaf in the corner. I look forward to seeing Ellis in Nashville, but he needs to add about 10-15 lbs. A year or at least part of a year in Milwaukee will be real important for him.[/QUOTE

Granted he will have to bulk up but he's a third pairing D who won't be matched up with the top lines

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No Blum on PP?
Well i was thinking that would be a smaller version of Weber Suter. Left handed to right handed shot, better for one timers on each point.

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Back to Radulov, the acquisition of a big name forward would go a long way, I think, to convincing him to come back. Using his amazing assist numbers as a barometer for his passing (over 1 apg and almost 50% more assists than the nearest player in the KHL), he'd be great with a true sniper like Stamkos. I could see him skipping and whistling Dixie on the way back to Nashville knowing he could put up monster numbers and cash in easily.

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Ellis's speed?

His skating and "speed" are his biggest weaknesses. For a small guy, he doesn't get around very well...

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07-08-2011, 03:33 PM
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Blum is 178lbs and he has done perfectly well, Ellis is 173lbs so there is not much difference. (BTW I am trusting Wikipedia on this)
Blum is now up to 190 and Ellis was listed at 179 at camp last week. FYI.

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07-08-2011, 04:12 PM
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Blum is now up to 190 and Ellis was listed at 179 at camp last week. FYI.
179 is pretty solid for someone as short as he is. 185-190 would be good eventually. I don't know if you want him lugging around anymore weight than that.

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Blum is 178lbs and he has done perfectly well, Ellis is 173lbs so there is not much difference. (BTW I am trusting Wikipedia on this)
Blum listed at 192 and a couple of years of experience in Milwaukee. Ellis currently 186, probably closer to 180. 10 lbs and 1 year makes a huge difference.

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07-08-2011, 09:22 PM
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179 is pretty solid for someone as short as he is. 185-190 would be good eventually. I don't know if you want him lugging around anymore weight than that.
Cube is 198 at the same height. He doesn't need to be that big, but he needs to have a little more lead in the pencil. If he was a forward wouldn't think twice, defense is a different story.

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Cube is 198 at the same height. He doesn't need to be that big, but he needs to have a little more lead in the pencil. If he was a forward wouldn't think twice, defense is a different story.
We'll just switch Ellis to "Pinch-Hitting-Forward/Pinch-Hitting-D-Man/Powerplay-Specialist" if he can't hack playing NHL defense full time.

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07-08-2011, 11:25 PM
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scouting report on Ellis from Hockey futures

http://www.hockeysfuture.com/article..._at_chl_level/

Ryan Ellis, D, Windsor Spitfires
Acquired: 1st round, 11th overall, 2009

Every once in a while, one has to check to make sure Ellis is still playing defense, since his numbers scream forward. He had an outstanding season, scoring 24 goals and 101 points, tying him with Russian phenom Nail Yakupov for fourth in the league scoring race. Ellis blew every other defender out of the water in the points race, with the next highest finished being Ryan Murphy in 24th, with 79 points. Ellis also blew away his own team in terms of points, finishing 24 points ahead of second place, and 60 points ahead of the next highest defenseman. And he did it all in only 58 games, for an astounding 1.74 points per game.

So, clearly he can score, but can he defend at all? Well, in short, yes. He finished with far and away the best plus/minus on the team, with other defenseman struggling to break even Ellis was at plus-24. He also did well on special teams, with ten of his goals coming on the powerplay, and another two coming shorthanded. Ellis has all the skills an NHL player could ever need, but the knock on him is the same as ever: size. He's bulked up a little more than previous seasons at 179 pounds, but he's generously listed at 5' 10.

Ellis scored over a point per game in the playoffs as well, with six goals and 13 assists in 19 games. However, unlike other players he did not get a taste of Milwaukee at the end of his season. Despite not getting a cup of coffee there, Ellis should play for the Admirals next year as well, since this was his fourth OHL season. He may be small, but nobody has been able to hold Ellis and his brilliant offensive ability off the board yet, we'll see if that changes as he moves up a few levels.

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Quick question because I'm curious. If Radulov did come back for the 12-13 NHL season to play the last year of his contract, wouldn't he be a RFA going into the 13-14 season? Maybe we could have him for more than just 1 year.

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Quick question because I'm curious. If Radulov did come back for the 12-13 NHL season to play the last year of his contract, wouldn't he be a RFA going into the 13-14 season? Maybe we could have him for more than just 1 year.
That is correct.

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scouting report on Ellis from Hockey futures

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Ellis scored over a point per game in the playoffs as well, with six goals and 13 assists in 19 games. However, unlike other players he did not get a taste of Milwaukee at the end of his season. Despite not getting a cup of coffee there, Ellis should play for the Admirals next year as well, since this was his fourth OHL season. ...
He sipped the coffee with the Admirals, active for 7 games in the playoffs. Had 1 goal, 1 assist, +/- of 0, ten shots on goal.

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