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07-12-2011, 03:03 PM
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Feds-Boyle-Prust : 3rd or 4th line?

Going into the season I believe that Torts is going to carryover two lines that worked in 2010-2011:

Dubi-AA-Cally
Feds-Boyle-Prust

The role for Anisimov's line is clearly defined as our 2nd line behind

xx-Richards-Gaborik

However, the way Torts is going to utilize Boyle's line carries ramifications to the rest of the line-up, i.e. if it's 4th line then Stepan is clearly a 3rd line center, however if it's going to be our 3rd line then Stepan would have to be switched to a wing, at least to start the season.

How do you see it?

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Going into the season I believe that Torts is going to carryover two lines that worked in 2010-2011:

Dubi-AA-Cally
Feds-Boyle-Prust

The role for Anisimov's line is clearly defined as our 2nd line behind

xx-Richards-Gaborik

However, the way Torts is going to utilize Boyle's line carries ramifications to the rest of the line-up, i.e. if it's 4th line then Stepan is clearly a 3rd line center, however if it's going to be our 3rd line then Stepan would have to be switched to a wing, at least to start the season.

How do you see it?
I think that technically, they will be our 4th line, but as we saw last year, there was no real "4th line". Torts played all 4 lines based on who was playing well and he could trust everyone out there. I think the top 2 lines will get majority of playing time. But the 3 and 4 lines I think will be interchanged a lot and there will be no real "4th line".

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First question is if that line is set in stone. Could easily see Rupp-Boyle-Prust.

Then, to answer your question, whichever line Stepan is centering will be protected in close and late situations and will receive the least ice time when it matters.

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with the depth at C now I really hope they use Richards, Stepan, Anisimov as the top 3 Centres and give them the most ice time

But I am afraid if that lines stays together which it very well could they will steal minutes from the 3rd line in close games

So I propose moving Boyle to the wing and using him on a line with AA and Feds

Use Avery, Rupp, Prust as the 4th line and give Prust PK minutes too.

rounding it off I would do Dubinsky, Richards, Gaborik ( they need to ensure they have a great top line) Then Wolski, Stepan, Callahan as the 2nd line.

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I think that technically, they will be our 4th line, but as we saw last year, there was no real "4th line". Torts played all 4 lines based on who was playing well and he could trust everyone out there. I think the top 2 lines will get majority of playing time. But the 3 and 4 lines I think will be interchanged a lot and there will be no real "4th line".
This. 3rd line minutes, 3rd line duties(maybe even more), but written in "technically" as the 4th line. They will get a bit more ice because of how good they are at shutting down the other team and wearing them down, but on some nights Stepan's line, whoever hes with, will get a little extra.

Line 1, Line 2A, Line 2B, Line 3?

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It's hard to assign numerical values to lines anymore. They would be considered our "checking" line, while the line with Richards and Gaborik is our scoring line.

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This. 3rd line minutes, 3rd line duties(maybe even more), but written in "technically" as the 4th line. They will get a bit more ice because of how good they are at shutting down the other team and wearing them down, but on some nights Stepan's line, whoever hes with, will get a little extra.

Line 1, Line 2A, Line 2B, Line 3?
I'd say more like Line 1, Line 2, Line 3A, Line 3B

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Like most fans I've tried to pencil in lines on a piece of paper.

This year has been the hardest for me in many, many years.

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I'd say more like Line 1, Line 2, Line 3A, Line 3B
Yeah thats probably better.

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I'd say more like Line 1, Line 2, Line 3A, Line 3B
this is pretty accurate but as weve seen with stepan is that if he scores and plays well his line will see a bump in ice time, wolski or rupp and avery and stepan as or 3 or 3b looks good on paper, wish avery got more ice time. really want to give opposing team fits put rupp, avery and prust on the ice for a few shifts, boyle stepan and wolski. its nice to not cringe when thinking of our teams lines

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Probably depends on who we're playing. Against teams that are bigger and more physical, these guys will see more ice time, while against more speed/skill teams, Stepan's line will play more.

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very random question, but does richards play PK? What about in Stanley Cup?

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I'm not confident that it will be Feds-Boyle-Prust.

Avery-Stepan-Fedotenko was a rather successful 3rd line early last year, I think they may look to that again with Rupp-Boyle-Prust as a physical, wear-you-down 4th line.

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very random question, but does richards play PK? What about in Stanley Cup?
Richards was used on the PK by Torts in Tampa Bay. He was actually the forward with the second most icetime on the team in 2006-2007 (averaging 2:12 of PK time per game). He also averaged around 2 minutes per game in Dallas when he first arrived, but has seen his PK time cut drastically in the last two years (averaging only 20 seconds of pk time this season and 27 seconds last season season).

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Richards was used on the PK by Torts in Tampa Bay. He was actually the forward with the second most icetime on the team in 2006-2007 (averaging 2:12 of PK time per game). He also averaged around 2 minutes per game in Dallas when he first arrived, but has seen his PK time cut drastically in the last two years (averaging only 20 seconds of pk time this season and 27 seconds last season season).
I can't see him getting much more time than that this year, given our abundance of good PKers (barring injury, of course).

Dubinsky-Callahan
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I can't see him getting much more time than that this year, given our abundance of good PKers (barring injury, of course).

Dubinsky-Callahan
Boyle-Prust
Animov-Fedotenko
I agree. Like Gaborik his first year here, you might see him on the PK if we're trailing and need an offensive threat out there, but we've got such a well-rounded group of forwards who can kill penalties that there's no need to use your high-priced offensive weapons unless there's a special situation.

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I wouldn't mind
Boyle-stepan-Feds
Prust-rupp-Avery/hagelin

But the bottom 6 will likely be a most of different players

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The line will be Rupp - Boyle - Prust.

Feds will play with Stepan and MZA.

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The line will be Rupp - Boyle - Prust.

Feds will play with Stepan and MZA.
This. Rupp- Boyle-Prust could be the most productive fourth line in the NHL next year, IMO.

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I'm not confident that it will be Feds-Boyle-Prust.

Avery-Stepan-Fedotenko was a rather successful 3rd line early last year, I think they may look to that again with Rupp-Boyle-Prust as a physical, wear-you-down 4th line.
Not as successful as Boyle line became once Fedotenko joined it. I have no doubt in my mind that Fedotenko made this line click the way it did for us last year.

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I'm not confident that it will be Feds-Boyle-Prust.

Avery-Stepan-Fedotenko was a rather successful 3rd line early last year, I think they may look to that again with Rupp-Boyle-Prust as a physical, wear-you-down 4th line.
This is how I see it shaking out.

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Going into the season I believe that Torts is going to carryover two lines that worked in 2010-2011:

Dubi-AA-Cally
Feds-Boyle-Prust

The role for Anisimov's line is clearly defined as our 2nd line behind

xx-Richards-Gaborik

However, the way Torts is going to utilize Boyle's line carries ramifications to the rest of the line-up, i.e. if it's 4th line then Stepan is clearly a 3rd line center, however if it's going to be our 3rd line then Stepan would have to be switched to a wing, at least to start the season.

How do you see it?
Honestly i think NYR has to 3rd lines...cause I dont consider that line a 4th..maybe a fringe 3rd and top of the line 4th.But,nah,there as good a 3rd..

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The way Torts coaches they could play 2nd line minutes if they are clicking that night.
That's a really tough question - It all really rests on what they look like out of camp. If Boyle improved, if stepan, wolski etc..

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Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik
Wolski-Anisimov-Callahan
Fedetenko-Stepan-MZA
Rupp-Boyle-Prust
Avery

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this all depends, how much ice time would you like to see each the respective lines to get?

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