HFBoards

Go Back   HFBoards > NHL Eastern Conference > Atlantic Division > Montreal Canadiens
Mobile Hockey's Future Become a Sponsor Site Rules Support Forum vBookie Page 2
Notices

Red Wings in the NorthEast

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old
07-12-2011, 06:31 PM
  #26
la25ecoupe
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,569
vCash: 500
32/4=9

la25ecoupe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 06:35 PM
  #27
DAChampion
Registered User
 
DAChampion's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Canberra, Australia
Country: Australia
Posts: 6,732
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by la25ecoupe View Post
32/4=9
Pierre Mcguire is that you?

DAChampion is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 07:03 PM
  #28
GoodKiwi
Registered User
 
GoodKiwi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Montreal
Country: Georgia
Posts: 9,898
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HabbyGilmore View Post
haven't heard that one yet.. got a link saying that somewhere?
Sportscentre just had audio from Minnesota owner implying that this might happen with DET coming to East.

GoodKiwi is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 07:20 PM
  #29
Protest the Hero
Registered User
 
Protest the Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,383
vCash: 500
If the playoff seeding remains the same we could have the top 6 teams in the conference in one division and it wouldn't really matter, but if they switch to the other format and only 4 teams are allowed per division we could be in trouble.

Protest the Hero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 07:25 PM
  #30
One Trick Pony
Registered User
 
One Trick Pony's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2006
Country: Canada
Posts: 6,589
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HabbyGilmore View Post
haven't heard that one yet.. got a link saying that somewhere?
There was a thread about this somewhere in HF, don't remember where. But here's something I found now:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/06/22/...-major-changes

One Trick Pony is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 07:57 PM
  #31
habsrule22
Registered User
 
habsrule22's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Powassan, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,647
vCash: 500
If Detroit is in our division, who's out Boston

habsrule22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 08:04 PM
  #32
TheBuriedHab
Registered User
 
TheBuriedHab's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 5,181
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by habsrule22 View Post
If Detroit is in our division, who's out Boston
Id probably say buffalo. They will not break the habs bruins rivalry.

TheBuriedHab is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 08:12 PM
  #33
habsrule22
Registered User
 
habsrule22's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Powassan, Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 1,647
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBuriedHab View Post
Id probably say buffalo. They will not break the habs bruins rivalry.
geographically, that wouldn t make sense. Detroit n Buffalo are pretty close, then toronto, Ottawa and us are close too. Only team with a little of distance is Boston. Probably put Boston in with philly.

habsrule22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 08:14 PM
  #34
Analyzer
#WeAreBoston
 
Analyzer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Renfrew, ON.
Country: Canada
Posts: 41,747
vCash: 500
Maybe we can develop a rivalry and beat them up.

Analyzer is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 08:22 PM
  #35
Lucius
Registered User
 
Lucius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Halifax, NS
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,705
vCash: 500
No matter what they do, the divisions will be screwed up. To me, the sanest thing to do is move Nashville to the Southeast. Geographically that makes the most sense, but given Nashville is in the Central time zone, I doubt they do that. If they did though, they could move Dallas to the Central (which makes a load of sense), Winnipeg to the Northwest (with the other West Canada teams) and Colorado to the Pacific.

Putting Winnipeg away from Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton where they'll be a draw and into a division where they'll be going to St. Louis and places where Winnipeg won't draw seems silly.

Plus it solves the Southeast problem. Atlanta leaves a big hole. Washington already geographically makes zero sense in that division. If they put Detroit or Columbus in the Atlantic or Northeast, it sets off a chain reaction that results in someone like Pittsburgh being in the Southeast, which is just insane. But Crosby vs. Ovechkin might outweigh the state rivalries, I guess. The problem with the Atlantic is that it's hard to split up the three NY teams or the two Pennsylvania teams. Columbus and Detroit though are both in the Eastern time zone, and geographically, the closest team to Columbus is Pittsburgh (it's closer to Pitts then Philly is).

Lucius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 08:40 PM
  #36
Team_Spirit
Tinordi-Subban
 
Team_Spirit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 20,976
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by habsrule22 View Post
geographically, that wouldn t make sense. Detroit n Buffalo are pretty close, then toronto, Ottawa and us are close too. Only team with a little of distance is Boston. Probably put Boston in with philly.
/puke. Ship out Ottawa plz they are boring.

Team_Spirit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 08:59 PM
  #37
Protest the Hero
Registered User
 
Protest the Hero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Ontario
Country: Canada
Posts: 5,383
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by Analyzer View Post
Maybe we can develop a rivalry and beat them up.
Yes, and it doesn't matter if they beat us on the scoreboard as long as we beat them up.

Protest the Hero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-12-2011, 09:16 PM
  #38
Lucius
Registered User
 
Lucius's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Halifax, NS
Country: Canada
Posts: 4,705
vCash: 500
One other consideration: This is all moot if Phoenix implodes and moves East, which is a strong possibility. If they move to the East, Winnipeg moves to the West and everyone else stays in their conferences.

I suspect that's among the reasons they didn't rush Winnipeg West this year, because they'd have to move whomever they swapped them with back to the West the year after.

Quote:
Originally Posted by eliash View Post
There was a thread about this somewhere in HF, don't remember where. But here's something I found now:

http://www.ottawasun.com/2011/06/22/...-major-changes
Don't see how that's possible, even if you assume unbalanced conferences (16/14), their geography is screwy. The article says four divisions, two conferences. Two divisions of 8, two of 7. It also says Columbus and Detroit both move East.

Even if you mis-align the conferences, there is no way you can make two "Eastern" divisions out of "South" and "East" unless you call Columbus, Philadelphia, Washington and Pittsburgh "South," which is kind of ridiculous.


Last edited by Lucius: 07-12-2011 at 09:37 PM.
Lucius is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 06:35 AM
  #39
habshound247
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 327
vCash: 500
Detroit to the East and Boston out.

Then who moves out should the NHL move Phoenix to Quebec City? Detroit.

habshound247 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 07:37 AM
  #40
HabbyGilmore
Best man for the job
 
HabbyGilmore's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Saint John, NB Canda
Country: Canada
Posts: 215
vCash: 500
Send a message via MSN to HabbyGilmore
no ones going to be out.. one division has to have one extra team.. only way to work it out with the current divisions

HabbyGilmore is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 07:49 AM
  #41
Patccmoi
Registered User
 
Patccmoi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 1,087
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by HabbyGilmore View Post
no ones going to be out.. one division has to have one extra team.. only way to work it out with the current divisions
Not really, geographically you would take Boston out of the NE and put them in the division with NYR, NYI, NJ and Philly. Then you would kick Pittsburgh out of there and put them with Washington, TB, Florida and Carolina.

Yes, you break Boston-Montreal and Philly-Pittsburgh. But you gain Pittsburgh-Washington (possibly the most marketed rivalry in the US), Boston-NY (they are huge rivals in every other sport, seeing each other more often could easily create the same in hockey), Philly-Boston is pretty good too with their recent playoff history.

They wouldn't have a hard time marketing these changes, even though you lose some rivalry.

That being said, from what I understand they are going to revamp the whole thing pretty soon, so I don't think we'll see that. They will likely just make 4 divisions or something like that.

Patccmoi is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 07:50 AM
  #42
OpenIceHit
Registered User
 
OpenIceHit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,329
vCash: 500
Buttman will try to screw everything up again...

OpenIceHit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 08:33 AM
  #43
Bullsmith
Registered User
 
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 4,172
vCash: 500
There are lots of reasons that moving Boston out and Detroit in to the north east would make sense. Also, it would allow the NHL to break up the most intense and successful rivalry in the entire league, which is the kind of direct attack on hockey fans that Bettman's really good at. Maybe when Quebec gets in, they can break up Philly and Pittsburgh.

Seriously though, with Buffallo moving to the top of the league in salary, along with Burke's continuing efforts to improve Toronto, the NE is possibly the best division in the league in terms of rivalries. So yeah, break it up.


Last edited by Bullsmith: 07-13-2011 at 08:38 AM.
Bullsmith is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 08:39 AM
  #44
Strik_IX
No excuses!
 
Strik_IX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Montréal
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,879
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaDevilGirl View Post
Can't we have Columbus instead?
I'd much rather play the Wings 6 games a year.

Would be excellent training for the SCF

Original 6 team, entertaining matches, etc.

I'd rather take the long road than stomp CBJ.


As far as the Habs ability to make the playoffs should they join our division, the answer is absolutely. We will have another team to battle with for top seed in the division, but nothing more if the system stays as it stands.

Strik_IX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 08:42 AM
  #45
OpenIceHit
Registered User
 
OpenIceHit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Montreal
Posts: 1,329
vCash: 500
And what will happen when Florida and Phoenix move to Hamilton and Quebec? We'll have two Northeast Divisions?

OpenIceHit is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 08:46 AM
  #46
Strik_IX
No excuses!
 
Strik_IX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Montréal
Country: Canada
Posts: 2,879
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by OpenIceHit View Post
And what will happen when Florida and Phoenix move to Hamilton and Quebec? We'll have two Northeast Divisions?
I think we will end up in a four division system if that happens, might even change to such a formula as soon as 2012-2013 (if we dont all die in december next year )

Strik_IX is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 08:48 AM
  #47
Em Ancien
Sexy 2nd Rounder
 
Em Ancien's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Mount Real Life
Posts: 8,881
vCash: 500
Winnipeg -> Central

Detroit -> North East

Boston -> Atlantic

Pitts -> South East (heh...Bettman prolly creaming his pants)

Done. Easy.

Em Ancien is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 09:32 AM
  #48
Gary320
Moderator
 
Gary320's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 13,428
vCash: 500
I'd rather face the other east teams evenly instead of just 4 times. Also face more West teams.

So in favor of a larger division is cool with me.

Gary320 is online now   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 09:59 AM
  #49
TonyTinglebone
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,132
vCash: 500
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThaDevilGirl View Post
Can't we have Columbus instead?
kryptonite!!


TonyTinglebone is offline   Reply With Quote
Old
07-13-2011, 10:07 AM
  #50
Moester
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Montreal
Posts: 947
vCash: 500
Send a message via AIM to Moester Send a message via MSN to Moester
Quote:
Originally Posted by HabbyGilmore View Post
Do we stand a chance of making the playoffs next year if the RedWings are moved into the division?
I am not worried about the Wings. They are scary to play once per year, because they are a very potent team who are hard to play against. But in the same division we will learn their style and at worst learn to grind it out with them and at best find a way to beat them consistently.

Hockey isn't just a stats game, its played out on the ice, an I have faith in what that Canadiens bring.

Moester is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Forum Jump


Bookmarks

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:25 AM.

monitoring_string = "e4251c93e2ba248d29da988d93bf5144"
Contact Us - HFBoards - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Use - Advertise - Top - AdChoices

vBulletin Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
HFBoards.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.