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07-13-2011, 09:50 PM
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To solidify our offensive, we'll add one of the best offensive players of his era, Guy Chouinard



Sorry on the wait guys, had to do all of this via iPhone.
His ability to play the point on the powerplay might be his biggest asset here.

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07-13-2011, 10:44 PM
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I need any help I can get about Eric Vail bio.

He's one of the hardest I ever had to research.

But then again I never did the AAA.

We need a ''draft gala'' where we give trophies to GMs in multiple categories like ''GM of the year'' or ''GM that participated the most'' or ''Slowest GM to pick''.

Last week I became a buddhist.Sounds promising.


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07-13-2011, 10:54 PM
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Serious about Eric Vail though , the guy is not all over google to say the least , playing for a dead franchise probably doesn't help.

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07-13-2011, 10:58 PM
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I'll be concerned if he doesn't sign on tonight to make them.
He has officially been skipped for a 4th time. If he hasn't picked by the time I get up in the morning, I think I should probably make his picks while there are still reasonably good players out there.

Anyone have a problem with that?

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07-13-2011, 11:05 PM
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Serious about Eric Vail though , the guy is not all over google to say the least , playing for a dead franchise probably doesn't help.
Some guys are just hard to find info on. You can try using both google news archives and google books. I know there's a book on google books that has info for all the former Golden Seals players. Maybe there is something similar for the old Flames.

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He has officially been skipped for a 4th time. If he hasn't picked by the time I get up in the morning, I think I should probably make his picks while there are still reasonably good players out there.

Anyone have a problem with that?
I think this is a prudent course of action.


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07-14-2011, 01:42 AM
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I believe jkrx and Reds have used up their allotted clock.

DaveG is pleased to add Herb Carnegie, C to his team.

mark/stoneberg are on the clock.

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07-14-2011, 07:21 AM
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Detroit Red Wings selects:

Antonin Stavjana, D

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07-14-2011, 07:33 AM
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Antonin Stavjana, D
One of about a dozen Czechoslovakians I heemed and hummed about picking in the B-Draft (After the ATD, MLD, AAA, AA and free agent 'A-level' thread).

Maybe you have more complete info on him that the raw stats and two comments I could find.

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One of about a dozen Czechoslovakians I heemed and hummed about picking in the B-Draft (After the ATD, MLD, AAA, AA and free agent 'A-level' thread).

Maybe you have more complete info on him that the raw stats and two comments I could find.
My czech commrade will provide that for you.

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07-14-2011, 07:50 AM
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The Pittsburgh Hornets select Bob Trapp, D



Bob Trapp, D

-5'10", 170 lbs: Much larger than average in the 1920s.

In 2 years in the NHL (after his WHL prime):

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In Chicago Trapp played 44 games and managed 4 goals and 2 assists, good for second on the team in scoring from the defense. He also provided toughness in spades, delivering 92 penalty minutes, just one minute off the team lead. Trapps star dimmed in his second season when he was unable to score and managed just 2 assists and 37 penalty minutes.
In the WHL/WCHL:

-2 x First Team All-Star (1923, 1926)
-Second Team All-Star (1922)

-Points among defensemen – 6th(1922), 4th(1923), 7th(1924), 4th(1925), 1st(1926)

Goals AD – 8th(1922), 8th(1923), 5th(1924), 8th(1925), 6th(1926)
Assists AD – 3rd(1922), 4th(1923), 4th(1924), 2nd(1925), 1st(1926)


Notice that he was a 1st Team All Star in 1923, while only finishing 6th in points and a 2nd Team in 1922, while only finishing 7th. He certainly wasn't getting on the All-Star teams for just his offense. That, plus the quote about his physical play in his 2 seasons in the NHL indicate that he was likely a physical, defensive force in his own zone.

This trade shows how highly regarded he was in the WHL:

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Traded to Portland (WHL) by Edmonton (WHL) with ********* for Eddie Shore and Art Gagne, October 7, 1925.
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2nd team (WCHL 1922)
Trapp was behind Red Dutton and Joe Simpson for first team honours. Both HHOFers. No info exists as to who was regarded higher between Trapp and 2nd team *******. In the NHL, Cameron, Cleghorn, Boucher, and Gerard were certainly better. A couple other are debatable. (*****, Coutu, for example) Trapp was the 7th-10th-best defenseman in hockey.

1st team (WCHL 1923)
Trapp apparently made the 1st team along with Gardiner and Simpson - both HHOFers. No info exists as to who was regarded higher. In the NHL, Boucher, Cleghorn, Cameron, Gerard, and possibly Reise and Corbeau were better. Trapp was the 5th-9th-best defenseman in hockey.

1st team (WHL 1926)
Trapp made the 1st all-star team along with Eddie Shore. Shore was likely regarded higher. In the NHL, Day, Conacher, Clancy, Boucher, Hitchman, & Cleghorn were likely better. Leduc may have been. Trapp was the 8th-9th-best defenseman in hockey.

For these three seasons, Trapp was somewhere between the 5th and 10th-best defenseman in hockey.
Most of this info pulled from this bio: http://hfboards.com/showpost.php?p=2...&postcount=198


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07-14-2011, 08:07 AM
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The Garnish Phantoms use their 4th round selection to select Dan Bouchard, goalie.



Some facts on Bouchard:

- 7 20 Win Seasons
- Between 1972-1973 and 1984-1985 2nd most wins of any NHL goalie
- Career record of 286-232-113

For more on Bouchard click the following link:

http://www.legendsofhockey.net/Legen...p?player=18439

I've notified the next pickers that they're up.

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07-14-2011, 08:18 AM
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I hope ctrl + F hasn't failed me...

The Sleepwatchers will select D, Jim McKenny.

2, 4, 7, 13, 13, 14, 17 are his results in scoring amongst dmen. Wish I had more time to look but I'm hoping he was one of the better offensive dmen available. Not expecting much defensively from him.

EDIT: He played some wing so I'll have to look in to how much it boosted his stats.


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07-14-2011, 08:33 AM
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We're going to go with Mike O Connell, D. Bio will come when TDMm posts it.

Since I'm just rolling out of bed will someone PM Iain?

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07-14-2011, 08:41 AM
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I hope ctrl + F hasn't failed me...

The Sleepwatchers will select D, Jim McKenny.

2, 4, 7, 13, 13, 14, 17 are his results in scoring amongst dmen. Wish I had more time to look but I'm hoping he was one of the better offensive dmen available. Not expecting much defensively from him.
Didn't he also play wing?

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07-14-2011, 09:04 AM
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We're going to go with Mike O Connell, D. Bio will come when TDMm posts it.

Since I'm just rolling out of bed will someone PM Iain?
damn - I should have set my alarm an hour ealier

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07-14-2011, 09:05 AM
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One little-known fact about Trapp is that he also played some left wing early in his career. He's similar to Coutu in that way, and I'd probably rate him ahead of Coutu, who was too violent for his own good.

Trapp was traded for Eddie Shore, but bear in mind that was a young Eddie Shore after only one year in pro hockey.

No disrespect to Trapp, who's a very good pick, just trying to add some context.

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07-14-2011, 09:10 AM
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Didn't he also play wing?
Saw it mentioned, I hope not very much

I'll look in to it more.

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Didn't he also play wing?
Indeed. Right wing for Sittler no less.



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Began playing right wing for Rochester and Vancouver (WHL) during the 1968-69 season.... Began 1969-70 NHL season at right wing for Toronto... Played right wing for Toronto in 1975-76. ... Played on line with.. Darryl Sittler for Toronto in 1975-76...
http://www.hockeydraftcentral.com/1963/63017.html

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Hopefully, people don't have a problem with me jumping in to cover for tomservo here.....


Obviously, the Winnipeg Falcons need to start building an a productive 1st line. As always, I like to start with a playmaking center and a scorig winger:

Scott Gomez and Vincent Lukac

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damn - I should have set my alarm an hour ealier
We actually were all set to take someone else til late last night, but decided on O Connell instead to make sure we got a RH PP point. There aren't many good ones out there that we liked.

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These guys are partly to meet era requirements early in the draft so I don't get stuck searching for players based solely on that later on, and partly to fill some roles.

The Brandon Shamrocks select Keith Crowder and Wally Hergesheimer, both RW.

Crowder's to go into the corners (his size will come in handy for a team likely to have a lot of smaller early-era forwards), and Hergesheimer's to go to the net. Fuller bios later when I have time.

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07-14-2011, 09:22 AM
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Indeed. Right wing for Sittler no less.




http://www.hockeydraftcentral.com/1963/63017.html
Thanks VI.

Playing at RW probably had a major effect on that first big year in 69/70 (2nd among dmen), he wasn't even top 20 in D scoring in 75-76...so (unless I missed something) the question is whether or not he played with Sittler in 76-77 as well, where he was 14th in scoring amongst dmen per hockey-reference.

I'll have to look in to both the 69/70 and 76/77 seasons in more detail.


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I would really prefer Mike O'Connell, but I always like to have a puck-moving defenseman, and it looks like this is the best guy left - Tom Bladon

Also, I'm feeling kind of lazy, so I'll take the easy way out and start our second line with a slow-footed, yet extremely effective center - Jason Allison

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07-14-2011, 10:00 AM
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Do you guys consider Don Smith equally as proficcient at LW as at center? I can't find much aside from quotes saying he played both.

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07-14-2011, 10:03 AM
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Do you guys consider Don Smith equally as proficcient at LW as at center? I can't find much aside from quotes saying he played both.
Personally, if you can find evidence that he was effective at different forward positions, that's good enough for me.... but, I think I have one of the more relaxed views on that topic.

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