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07-14-2011, 09:48 AM
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If he can be productive, come in and have a good camp, they'll find a place to play him. Honestly, I'm more confident in Prospal than Wolski.

Too much scoring depth is a good problem to have.
Tell me they swap Prospal for Wolski and I'm on board. But with Wolski, not sure I see a place.

The LW with Richards and Gaborik is a huge hole right now (want to keep Dubinsky with Callahan and AA)

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The big asset he brings is the power play. You add Vinny you have better and deeper options as a club and really, with the amount of injuries we had last year who could say no to that? We dont want to be stuck with Chad Kolarik on the 2nd line again. Vinny for the final 1.5 mil of our potential cap space would be a potential goldmine.
Would he even get time on the PP with this team the way it is?

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I just don't see the harm. If you bring him in for sub-$1.5M, and he can't win himself a spot out of camp, you start him in the minors and there's a decent chance he'll retire. Otherwise, he's consuming no cap space and you try to move him.

If he plays well and earns himself that top LW spot, fantastic. He's a steal if he can still keep up and be productive (which evidence suggest he can). Vinny can play all three forward positions, so it's not a necessity to have him at LW. He's a guy you can move all over the lineup should injuries or scratches dictate the need.

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07-14-2011, 09:56 AM
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Would he even get time on the PP with this team the way it is?
IMO, he'd get it over Avery and Wolski, absolutely.

You're looking at hypothetically...

Callahan-Prospal-Gaborik

Richards-?????

Dubinsky-Anisimov-Boyle

?????-Stepan

With guys like Fedotenko as alternates. Maybe I'm forgetting someone but it seems to work.

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IMO, he'd get it over Avery and Wolski, absolutely.

You're looking at hypothetically...

Callahan-Prospal-Gaborik

Richards-?????

Dubinsky-Anisimov-Boyle

?????-Stepan

With guys like Fedotenko as alternates. Maybe I'm forgetting someone but it seems to work.
I see Richards playing the entire two minutes. Possibly Gaborik too.

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Would he even get time on the PP with this team the way it is?
I would think so. We need a minimum of six forwards on the 2 PP units. Who would we consider givens?

Richards
Gaborik
Dubinsky
Callahan
Anisimov?
Stepan?
Wolski?
Boyle?

Those last three, as I see it, will receive PP time commensurate to their performance. Plenty of opportunity there for Prospal to jump in and make a difference on the PP.

And again, if everyone else plays well and there are no minutes for Vinny, you scratch/waive/trade him.

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Maybe there isn't an exact 'place' for both Prospal and Wolski, but having extra options isn't a bad thing. We are going to have very few NHL ready forwards in Hartford this year. Bourque isn't ready, really your only injury fill in guy is Johnny Mitchell, and Zuccarello.

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Maybe there isn't an exact 'place' for both Prospal and Wolski, but having extra options isn't a bad thing. We are going to have very few NHL ready forwards in Hartford this year. Bourque isn't ready, really your only injury fill in guy is Johnny Mitchell, and Zuccarello.
Again, get rid of Wolski and sign Prospal and I'm on board.

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I would think so. We need a minimum of six forwards on the 2 PP units. Who would we consider givens?

Richards
Gaborik
Dubinsky
Callahan
Anisimov?
Stepan?
Wolski?
Boyle?

Those last three, as I see it, will receive PP time commensurate to their performance. Plenty of opportunity there for Prospal to jump in and make a difference on the PP.

And again, if everyone else plays well and there are no minutes for Vinny, you scratch/waive/trade him.
Richards
Gaborik
Dubinsky
Callahan
Anisimov
Stepan are givens to me.

You can then look at big bodies in front like Rupp or Boyle

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Seeing Fitzy place Prospal at center reminds me: he'd be arguably our best face off guy.

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They already have a log jam at F so I can't see him being brought in

Right now with NHL players with 1 or more yrs experience they have 13 F so that's a full squad. I am not including Hagelin, Zuccarello, Kolarik, Weise, Newbury, Mitchell as potential call ups.

So sorry Vinny does'nt fit to me. Conceivably they could dump someone like EC.

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Maybe there isn't an exact 'place' for both Prospal and Wolski, but having extra options isn't a bad thing. We are going to have very few NHL ready forwards in Hartford this year. Bourque isn't ready, really your only injury fill in guy is Johnny Mitchell, and Zuccarello.
My thinking as well. I'd rather have him and find out that we don't need him, than not have him and find out we need him.

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I see Richards playing the entire two minutes. Possibly Gaborik too.
Absolutely.

Dubinsky possibly, as well.

Richards at the point, who is taking faceoffs? Our second best faceoff guy, Dubinsky.

And how many guys on the roster can control the puck under pressure the way Dubinsky can? No one besides Richards.

I prefer Prospal to Christensen and Wolski if for nothing else his drive.

We still need a top six LW without sacrificing top prospects or major core players.

Not sure who would be available.

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We're not playing one of our PK guys in Dubi 2 minutes per pp unless we want to give him another stress fracture from overuse.

If we acquire the depth, we won't have to kill our top guys with 24 minutes a night, which believe it or not is a big wear on forwards over the course of a season.

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Richards
Gaborik
Dubinsky
Callahan
Anisimov
Stepan are givens to me.

You can then look at big bodies in front like Rupp or Boyle
my thoughts exactly

stick boyle and his gigantor-like frame in front of the net and let richards shoot pucks at him for 2 minutes

very excited to see our PP next season, and its certianly put up or shut up time for torts in that regard

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I was always under the impression that Richards was more of a QB than a bomber. We still need finishers, and admittedly Prospal isn't a huge help with that.

It would probably help if MDZ was NHL ready this fall. Then we wouldn't have to rely on Staal and Girardi to play PP time.

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I was always under the impression that Richards was more of a QB than a bomber. We still need finishers, and admittedly Prospal isn't a huge help with that.

It would probably help if MDZ was NHL ready this fall. Then we wouldn't have to rely on Staal and Girardi to play PP time.
He is the QB not the bomber that's why we should have picked up Babchuk(he's got the shot--when he hits the net),Maybe V-Tank becomes that guy.

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No, he can't be demoted unless he's off the roster for good. He's not making it back through re-entry waivers.

If he's signed, for the contract he'd get, if there was a situation where he was playing so poorly that the team seriously is considering shipping him to the AHL prospal would just retire. He's not going to play like crap and be miserable to collect on a few hundred grand remaining in his contract if that situation were to arise.
Any implications of a 35+ contract?

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Bring him back!!

Guy is one of the few who has shown chemistry with Gaborik, he's an EXCELLENT team guy which people stupidly continue to underrate.

The knee was an issue at first because he was slow when first coming back, but that eventually got better and the speed was no longer a huge issue. The guy has vision that a lot of players on the Rangers do not have either...

I just think guys like Prospal are conducive to winning. Certain players are winning players in sports and you just accumulate as many of them as possible.

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a ton, almost seems like a majority, of richards goals have come from shots from the point on the PP

he may be more of a QB than a bomber but he sure isnt affraid of shooting the puck

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Again, get rid of Wolski and sign Prospal and I'm on board.
If Wolski's gone what need would we have for VP?

It would be via buyout = more cap space = better LW via FA/Trade

or via trade with other pieces = better LW

Am I missing something?

I don't honestly think Sather would get rid of Wolski without knowing he's bolstering that LW position. But then he's surprised me before lol

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If Wolski's gone what need would we have for VP?

It would be via buyout = more cap space = better LW via FA/Trade

or via trade with other pieces = better LW

Am I missing something?

I don't honestly think Sather would get rid of Wolski without knowing he's bolstering that LW position. But then he's surprised me before lol
Sure. Give me some names of the LW they could sign or trade for. And what are they giving up to get that top line LW?

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if he's swapping vinny for wolski i could see the following:

dubi - richards - gabby
vinny - aa - cally
feds - stepan - mza
rupp - boyle - prust

i dont know if the organization is really done with wolski at this point though

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Pass. Torts made the comment about Prospal and Drury having bad knees after the season. Made similar comments two weeks ago when he spoke to the media. The Rangers got more out of Prospal last season than they thought when everyone assumed Vinny was done. His knee is an issue going forward.

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Things appear to be pretty crowded.

If Vinny is healthy he is the winger to play with Richards and Gaborik no questions asked. His history of success with Richards and Gaborik is a major factor. Why guess on chemistry? He could be the glue that helps Richards and Gaborik develop together.

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