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07-13-2011, 08:14 PM
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It's 9pm, not 10pm for west games here. Most games are over by 11:15 and there's this thing called PVR
Oops, I'm thinking Toronto time. Even so, 11:15 is a bit late, and it's more like 11:30 after watching a few highlights, game summary, and getting into bed. Hockey games are meant to be watched live, and PVRs are not equivalant to live viewers for ratings.

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07-14-2011, 12:39 PM
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Contraction ... not retraction.

I agree on one hand, but it will never happen .... the reason why? NHLPA
The NHL wouldn't want contraction either, though. Why would owners want to ditch a few teams when they could expand and get a nice half-billion dollars - or more - in expansion fees, with the option of relocating struggling markets?

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07-15-2011, 11:11 PM
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The NHL wouldn't want contraction either, though. Why would owners want to ditch a few teams when they could expand and get a nice half-billion dollars - or more - in expansion fees, with the option of relocating struggling markets?
Yes, they'd love to, but there's a lack of places with a modern NHL-spec arena and eager owners. Right now, the only major markets in Canada+USA with modern NHL-spec arenas and no NHL franchises are...
  • Portland (Rose Garden) Paul Allen isn't interested
  • Houston (Toyota Center) Les Alexander doesn't seem interested
  • Kansas City (Sprint Center) no interested owners
  • Atlanta (Philips Arena) the arena management (ASG) ran the Thrashers out of town
Call it Bettman-hating if you will, but do you really think that if Les Alexander or Paul Allen had expressed interest in the Thrashers, that the NHL would have allowed TNSE to even talk to ASG?

Quebec's new arena will open in September 2015 ASSUMING NO MAJOR STRIKES (this is Quebec we're talking about). Right now, Phoenix looks like a tossup between...
  • playing AT LEAST 3 seasons at the old Colisee (2012-2013, 2013-2014, 2014-2015)
  • folding the franchise and awarding a new one to QC for the 2015-2016 season. The NHL might weasel-word it as suspending the franchise for 3 seasons and restarting it in QC in 2015... same difference.

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07-16-2011, 12:10 AM
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... Right now, the only major markets in Canada+USA with modern NHL-spec arenas and no NHL franchises are......
You could add:
- Cleveland
- San Antonio
- Oklahoma City
- Orlando
- Des Moines
- Milwaukee
- New Orleans
- Charlotte
- Albany
- Louisville

However, none of those have NHL owners.

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07-16-2011, 12:42 AM
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You could add:
- Cleveland
- San Antonio
- Oklahoma City
- Orlando
- Des Moines
- Milwaukee
- New Orleans
- Charlotte
- Albany
- Louisville

However, none of those have NHL owners.
You could also add Atlanta, Hamilton, Houston, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Memphis, Oakland, Portland, Quebec City, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Diego, Saskatoon, and Seattle to that list, though some would benefit from renovations more than others. Finding a city with an arena no worse than the NHL has endured in the past is not hard. Finding a wealthy owner, who doesn't mind potentially losing millions, willing to upgrade or spend years trying to get a city to build a new arena, and of course a fanbase that will support a team is the hard part.

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07-16-2011, 01:25 PM
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You could add:
- Cleveland
- San Antonio
- Oklahoma City
- Orlando
- Des Moines
- Milwaukee
- New Orleans
- Charlotte
- Albany
- Louisville

However, none of those have NHL owners.
Cleveland isn't a major market. They are Winnipeg USA with a couple of bigger buildings and the Rock n Roll hall of fame.

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07-16-2011, 04:22 PM
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Cincinnati should be added to the list.

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Cleveland isn't a major market. They are Winnipeg USA...
On this sub-forum, that's a compliment However, the Cleveland Barons didn't exactly flourish in their 2 seasons in the NHL.

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You could also add Atlanta, Hamilton, Houston, Indianapolis, Kansas City, Las Vegas, Memphis, Oakland, Portland, Quebec City, Sacramento, Salt Lake City, San Diego, Saskatoon, and Seattle to that list, though some would benefit from renovations more than others. Finding a city with an arena no worse than the NHL has endured in the past is not hard. Finding a wealthy owner, who doesn't mind potentially losing millions, willing to upgrade or spend years trying to get a city to build a new arena, and of course a fanbase that will support a team is the hard part.
Were there not overtures a while back about a replacement for the XL Center being built in Hartford as well?

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07-18-2011, 10:27 AM
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Were there not overtures a while back about a replacement for the XL Center being built in Hartford as well?
Yeah, Howard Baldwin thinks that Hartford can support a NHL team. Why, he's the biggest fool since that Mark Chipman fellow. Say, how'd things turn out for that bloke?

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