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07-19-2011, 03:23 PM
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DeBoer will be fine for the Devils organization. I see nothing in him that would make anyone believe he's the type that will lift them over the top when it comes playoff time.

Expect him to come in and get the Devils back to basics and discipline and overachieving.

Then expect another Jersey flame out in the first round.

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07-19-2011, 03:25 PM
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DeBoer has experience with Team Canada at the WJC. Unfortunately, a great hire. Not good, great.

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Cue the "go get Doughty!" threads.

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Stamkos has signed with TB.

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07-19-2011, 03:30 PM
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What? You mean every idiot fan who started threads on 29 teams message boards about signing him to an offer sheet are going to kill themselves now? Great news.

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07-19-2011, 03:35 PM
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Well, can't always get there first. I'll beat ya next time.

BTW, that deal brings him directly to UFA.

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07-19-2011, 03:38 PM
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Stamkos a UFA at the age of what 26? That will be a wild July 1.

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What? You mean every idiot fan who started threads on 29 teams message boards about signing him to an offer sheet are going to kill themselves now? Great news.
Anyone that thought that is delusional.

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Well, can't always get there first. I'll beat ya next time.

BTW, that deal brings him directly to UFA.
He gave up 1 UFA year, actually. Same as we did with Marc Staal.

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07-19-2011, 03:48 PM
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Now Leafs fans will just talk about how he's overrated and how Tim Connolly is a fine substitute.

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07-19-2011, 03:54 PM
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7.5 mill per for Stamkos....seems a little rough but fair I suppose

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07-19-2011, 04:02 PM
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He gave up 1 UFA year, actually. Same as we did with Marc Staal.
I know. Might have been a little misleading with the "directly". Didn't mean it like that.

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07-19-2011, 04:05 PM
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Leafs fans already turning their attention to Tavares for next year's offseason.

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DeBoer has experience with Team Canada at the WJC. Unfortunately, a great hire. Not good, great.
You would think a great coach would be the first to get hired not the last.

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07-19-2011, 04:14 PM
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Stamkos a UFA at the age of what 26? That will be a wild July 1.
Over/under on how many "Sign Stamkos" threads we go through here? Good money says we hit 10.

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07-19-2011, 04:17 PM
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Great job by the Devils. De Boer is one of the smartest coaches around. He doesn't deserve to be judged by his time with Florida. That was a horrible situation to work with, and he got little help either on the ice or behind the scenes.

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07-19-2011, 04:21 PM
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Thank god this stamkos crap is over.

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07-19-2011, 04:26 PM
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Stamkos has signed with TB.
what a freakin' bargain. $7.5M cap hit is juuuust right. So I guess that isn't technically a bargain but damn if I wasn't jealous. Good for them.

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07-19-2011, 04:27 PM
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I know. Might have been a little misleading with the "directly". Didn't mean it like that.
I really don't get his reasoning for giving up the UFA for so cheap. I read the structure is

8 8 8 8 5.5

lolwut? ok, Stevie boy. Is it just an inverted salary where they were actually negotiating 5.5, 8, 8, 8, 8?

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07-19-2011, 04:34 PM
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Best to say that DeBoer has not proven himself as an NHL coach. He didn't have a whole hell of a lot to work with in Florida and he doesn't appear to have much more in New Jersey and it will only get worse if Parise doesn't come back.

This hiring seems almost typical of Lamoriello--easy to dump coming from outside the organization if things don't go right.

Questionable how reliable the Devils goaltending is.
Their defense is also questionable. Greene as their go to pwp qb--is no Niedermayer or Rafalski. White is old--has vision problems. Salvador is always hurt. Volchenkov also injury prone has little offense. Tallinder--a stay at home is a bit soft. How soon they can get Larsson, Merrill and Urbom up to speed is critical to them becoming a contender again.

Their offense is very questionable as well. Last place in goals scored last year. Almost 20 goals behind the second worst team. They put a good string together in the second half but they had the entire team trapping all the time. Personality wise their best forward Kovalchuk comes across as a selfish jerk. They really really need to get Parise signed to a multi year deal.

I really don't get people thinking last year was some kind of glitch. I really don't see this team going anywhere and I don't really see how Peter DeBoer--however good a coach he is--is really going to make that much difference. Lemaire could come in--and implement the old Devils style and get a respectable response but Lemaire is a really smart coach who has been around a long time but even he isn't capable of miracles. DeBoer is going to need more to work with.

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07-19-2011, 04:46 PM
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Now Leafs fans will just talk about how he's overrated and how Tim Connolly is a fine substitute.
Not that he's just a fine substitute, but that he's actually better

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07-19-2011, 04:48 PM
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Great job by the Devils. De Boer is one of the smartest coaches around.
Based on what exactly? His Juniors?

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07-19-2011, 07:11 PM
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I know. Might have been a little misleading with the "directly". Didn't mean it like that.
Do not pass go, do not collect 200$.

If I'm Stamkos, I would've taken my lifetime contract in this CBA when the gettin's good.

His UFA deal at 26 might not be as lucrative as he'd hope.

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07-19-2011, 08:39 PM
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put me in the group that lists deboers as an unknown and interested to see how he does. he might turn out to be a brilliant hire, but he has no nhl experience beyond a bad situation in florida. not enough evidence to declare him a great hire and not enough to knock the hiring either...its definitely an interesting choice.

of course being biased i hope lou is calling lemaire by thanksgiving lol

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