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07-19-2011, 10:23 PM
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He contradicts himself in his own article.

About Markov: "where a player has a terrible year or two before his contract expires and a team, seeing his potential, decides to sign him as if those years never happened"

About White: "We expect White to bounce back in 2011-12"

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07-19-2011, 10:41 PM
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What a terribly written article. Poor insight and grammar all around.

Who gives a **** what this hack thinks?

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Anybody who puts a "10 years/$40 million" on the 'best of' list, should NEVER be read....actually he should be mocked and laughed at.

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It's just some kid who clearly doesn't know much more than the average forum poster.

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07-20-2011, 07:03 AM
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A lot of people look at Markov's injuries the last few seasons and write him off completely because they don't want to listen to an explanation. If he was concussion prone, or if he had a bad back, I would understand the label, but he's had 3 freak accidents. When he rebuilt the ligaments in his knee it wasn't weaker than normal, it just happened that he had another bad fall and messed up his knee again. Carey Price's skate chopping up his foot isn't an injury-prone type of injury.

Anyway, I'm wondering whether this guy is a Bruins or Leafs fan, because they would be able to find a problem in everything we do (like we do to them).

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07-20-2011, 07:39 AM
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After reading his lists of the best and worst signings, I'd say he's on the safest ground with Vokoun at $1.5M. As for the others, I'd wait to see how they perform. A number of the others could underperform or outperform expectations. The Habs had to gamble with Markov not only because they need him but because he could help a rival.

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07-20-2011, 07:47 AM
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Caught this thread in the corner of my eye, Rotoworld is fantastic for the three other sports, but their hockey writers/coverage/analysis is simply brutal. Best option is to just completely ignore that portion of the site.

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07-20-2011, 07:53 AM
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That's what is really funny :

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...but this contract only makes sense under that best case scenario.
No, under the best case scenario, it's a complete steal since he's much better than Ehrhoff.

If he has some injuries but still maintain his actual point production, it will still be a good contract.

... but, yes, I think we can all agree that he's completely clueless.

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07-20-2011, 08:01 AM
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whooooooooooooooooooooo cares

blogs/online stories are all subjective.

We dont have to champion everyone who says the habs made a great move and piss on everyone who says the contrary

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07-20-2011, 08:32 AM
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Because Markov makes lots of points and is Russian, he's considered as a defensive liability. People watching him play every game knows he far from that. In fact, he's sometimes better in his own zone. Anyways, he is our "problem" so...

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07-20-2011, 08:36 AM
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http://www.rotoworld.com/about/help.aspx

Tell them to get better writers for their NHL staff.

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whooooooooooooooooooooo cares

blogs/online stories are all subjective.

We dont have to champion everyone who says the habs made a great move and piss on everyone who says the contrary
I agree but at the same time there's a difference between:

A site with an anti-habs opinion that doesn't actually backs it up, doesn't use proper grammar, analyst clearly has no idea about the NHL or how to even write, and one who does!

And finally don't hire a 12 year old.

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07-20-2011, 08:51 AM
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Terrible, lol....I just looked at the names for fun after reading the Jagr article. Looks like Jeff Carter has a cap hit of 1.3 million (2 million less than Jagr), hahahaha what a tool...

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07-20-2011, 09:00 AM
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Journalism has it's trolls as well...

this guy clearly is pandering to get extra hits on his article, and let's face it, we've now got a thread about it and hundreds of posters who will click on the link to see it for themselves.
What makes you think this mutt is a journalist?
He looks like a blogger 'working' out of mommies basement.

You can email him at Bterran@gmail.com and let him know what you think. That link is available on his site.

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07-20-2011, 09:06 AM
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Ehrhoff's contract is horrible. That is all.

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I wouldn't call it the worst signing of the summer, but unless you've been in a cave you know how fragile that knee is. If he goes down there's no Hammer this year to pick up the slack. Not to mention we have two forwards who have broken vertebrae and play a crash and bang brand of hockey. If these two guys stay healthy all year (Cole and Markov) we're in business. If they don't, that's a lot of kids on the back end and the D we have aren't really puck movers other than PK and Spacek to a degree (although he's not what he used to be on the PP).

I don't know, don't think the guy is right by calling it the worst signing of the summer but it is long and expensive for a guy who seems he could be one wrong hit from ending his career permanently. I'll give him that.

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If Markov goes back to being relatively healthy(75-80 games) he should be a huge UFA bargain, he only makes 250k more than James Freaking Wisniewski

I agree with your premise - but let's face it - this contract is a big 'IF' - especially for a guy who has had 3 major surgeries within about 18 month period!

WORST CASE SCENARIO - if injuries recur - his contract won't count against the Cap - but there will another VETERAN void on defense that PG will have to deal with and who knows how that will play out!


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07-20-2011, 09:33 AM
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Markov! To Subban! He shoots! He scoooooores! It's a power play goal!

Yeah, him and everyone else of like thinking concerning Markov will eat crow.

60pts this season, Markov will want to make up for lost time.

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07-20-2011, 09:35 AM
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Outside view, not trying to start anything. I do respect him a lot as a player but I was really surprised to see him get 3 years at that amount.. Still, how do they think his deal is worse than say, Jovanovski? Markov's not too old to skate

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I love Markov but his healt worries the **** out of me. Lots of ? in his case and only time will tell. As for his contract, the Habs signed a proven talent.

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Ehrhoff's contract is horrible. That is all.
Ehroff's contract is horrible for Ehrhoff. Its actually a good deal for the Sabres imo. He could have gotten $30m+ over 5 years. He gave an extra 5 years for $10, that was stupid on his part imo.

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Ehroff's contract is horrible for Ehrhoff. Its actually a good deal for the Sabres imo. He could have gotten $30m+ over 5 years. He gave an extra 5 years for $10, that was stupid on his part imo.
Yeah poor him, who knows how he'll feed his family now.

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07-20-2011, 09:50 AM
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Markov is not only a joy to watch but is a game changer. He also makes any players EA sports rating increase by 30 points all kidden aside i REALY hope this fool is not just looking at points and did proper reaserch as to why his points were low. He could of also canvased other teams to see who wouldent sign Markov at that price and length , after hearing a bunch of "duh.... of course can we have him" maybe the tone of the article would change .. just like always haters gonna hate..

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LOL that article was absolutely ********.

My favourite part... 'Say the habs won the cup in 08-09 (just go with it)' lol

That analogy is ********... esp. when Markov signed his contract 2 years before that!

Markov, when healthy is worth MORE than his contract value.

Furthermore, the injuries were freak injuries. Markov was hurt on freak plays, and while he may experience pain or what not as he plays... He's still going to be an ELITE QUARTERBACKING D-MAN for the length of the contract offered.

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Markov is not only a joy to watch but is a game changer. He also makes any players EA sports rating increase by 30 points all kidden aside i REALY hope this fool is not just looking at points and did proper reaserch as to why his points were low. He could of also canvased other teams to see who wouldent sign Markov at that price and length , after hearing a bunch of "duh.... of course can we have him" maybe the tone of the article would change .. just like always haters gonna hate..
All valid points, now change that avatar lol

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All I have to say is that he put Markov as #1 worse, and right under, in the Best category.. Ehroff and his 10 yr contract.

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