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09-21-2005, 11:16 AM
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No, I'm referring to Malik more... Poti is useless and Weekes is just average, although he was horrible last night.

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No, I'm referring to Malik more... Poti is useless and Weekes is just average, although he was horrible last night.
I sincerely hope you're right, but I was already shaking my head at this one when it was announced last month - and I've been pretty vociferous in defending the state of the current rebuild.

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From the times I've seen, he was a good defender for the Canes... not very physical, which is why some have likened him to Poti, but there's a technical defensive dimension there, which is something Poti doesn't have... Malik, however, didn't use it last night.

I think Weekes is the idillic goalie for a rebuilding team... he's low profile and unselfish, but not good for a legitimate run at the Cup. Our realistic optimism should be for the playoffs, which I think Weekes can carry us to, if D works out this season.

Poti can be considered a borderline NHLer at this point. I say this because, while he'd be a top-pairing d-man anywhere but Detroit, all he has is offense - it's his entire game. He could never play forward and he has no defensive awareness, so he's not much of a d-man. And there can't be much sympathy, 'cause you can learn to play tough... I don't know, maybe they should pull a Waterboy with Poti or someone should bang his mom...

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Poti can be considered a borderline NHLer at this point. I say this because, while he'd be a top-pairing d-man anywhere but Detroit,

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Malik isn't all that bad, though Sather did overpay significantly for him.

Size like that is rare however, and getting around him is tough. He isn't slow turning so he can deal with guys going wide. Where Malik has a problem is that though he's big, he's not naturally strong, so he doesn't push guys out in front of the net like you'd want.

Still, I can bet by the end of the year, you won't look at Malik as one of your worst 5 players or anything. He's not fantastic, and at times he can look like a goat. But he's a fine bottom-pairing defenseman who you can insert in the #5 or #6 position safely and effectively, regardless of his teammate opposite him.

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But he's a fine bottom-pairing defenseman who you can insert in the #5 or #6 position safely and effectively, regardless of his teammate opposite him.
That's pretty much the problem. Sather did not pay him to be a #5/6 defenseman. He is paying him and playing him as a top 4. The other problem off course is that since he IS a third pairing defenseman, the Rangers already have younger and cheaper alternatives to play that position. So, basically, he is a waste of space and money who will suit up each and every game, whether or not he is better than the younger alternative.

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Malik isn't all that bad, though Sather did overpay significantly for him.

Size like that is rare however, and getting around him is tough. He isn't slow turning so he can deal with guys going wide. Where Malik has a problem is that though he's big, he's not naturally strong, so he doesn't push guys out in front of the net like you'd want.

Still, I can bet by the end of the year, you won't look at Malik as one of your worst 5 players or anything. He's not fantastic, and at times he can look like a goat. But he's a fine bottom-pairing defenseman who you can insert in the #5 or #6 position safely and effectively, regardless of his teammate opposite him.
But, at 3 years, $7.5 million, he's not paid like a bottom pairing d-man, at least not in the new economic environment.

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