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07-20-2011, 09:17 PM
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I think he would be a great complement to the team. Obviously his best days are behind him, but if he was willing to come cheap (~1.5M$) would you want him on the Habs?

A 3rd line of Dumont-Eller-Kostitsyn sounds a lot better than Kostitsyn-Eller-Moen in my opinion.
Moen is at least a good defensive player. I'm pretty sure Dumont hasn't been much of anything for about two years now.

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Holy crap I can't stand everyone wanting to get Kovalev.

I don't think there's a worse decision to be made for the future of this team.
so is getting Dumont, maybe even worse, the guy is totally finished. Why sign someone like that.


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07-20-2011, 09:30 PM
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yeah why not

lets bench eller to let play dumont

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What the heck happened to Dumont - how did he fall off the rails so quickly. Was there an injury that I am forgetting about?

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dumont is 33... Why is everybody talking like he is finished.

I think Dumont would be a good fit with Desharnais and Darche and he would probably be really cheap too.

plus, he know it's probably his last chance. 3 year ago, he was a 60 points player... And if Gomez could bounce back... Why not him.

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dumont is 33... Why is everybody talking like he is finished.

I think Dumont would be a good fit with Desharnais and Darche and he would probably be really cheap too.

plus, he know it's probably his last chance. 3 year ago, he was a 60 points player... And if Gomez could bounce back... Why not him.
Because he is. You should've seen him on Nashville.

Was a healthy scratch late in the year. Halischuk and Geoffrion got ice-time over him. Not to mention a team that was lead in points by a 50-point player bought him out. Red flags aplenty.

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07-20-2011, 10:45 PM
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I think Corey Stillman would be a good addition to round out the 3rd line with Eller/AK. He can also play top 6 minutes in the event of injuries, and has had good chemistry with Cole. 1 yr deal around $2 million would be a good depth move.

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07-21-2011, 04:28 AM
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J-P Dumont for 1 mil (1 year... RDS will pay 1/4 of it!!).


The French Quebecois Connection (3rd or 4th line):
JP Dumont - Desharnais - Darche



or no ?!?!



Go Habs Go!! (enjoying summer but can't wait for 2011-2012 season!!).



BTW, who are the best UFA dmen, forwards left...?

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07-21-2011, 06:41 AM
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Here are some of the players remaining that I could see us signing...rated them by "*****"(no 5 star players left).

****Prospal-could play 3rd line with Eller and AK(1.5-2 mil)

****Drury-could be a decent fit if his health permits, he is only 34 and two years from a 56 point season plus a guy that knows how to win(1-1.5 mil)

****Eminger-could be solid depth as #4-6, only 27(1-1.3 mil)

****Hannan-not the player he once was, but I could see him as a #4-5 to take some heat off Markov and Subban on PK and defensive assignments(1.2-2 mil)

****Madden-would be a nice fit as #4 center and PK specialist(900k-1 mil)

*****Winchester-fits perfectly in the player we need on the bottom 6, can fight and still contribute, brings size at 6'5" 230lbs(1-1.5 mil)

***Bitz-if he can get healthy, he is a guy that has size and decent skills(800-1 mil)

***Voros-could add a physical element to 4th line(800k-1 mil)

***Dumont-more of a reclamation project, can play center or wing, sign him for bottom 6 depth, with a rebound he could push our top 6 wingers.(800k-1 mil)

***Stillman-could play 3rd line and sub in on the top 6 in case of injuries(800k-1mil)

***Grier-big bottom 6 winger who can contribute on PK(900-1 mil)

***Bodie-could add size and physicality to the 4th line(800k-1 mil)

**Rivet-could he be an option for depth? To me he is better than he showed in Buffalo, plus a character guy(800k-1mil)

**Staois-brings a lot to the locker room, grizzled vet that knows how to win, does he have anything left?(800k-1 mil)

**Clark-could help out in the bottom 6(700-800 k)

**Zherdev-very talented, is he worth the gamble?(900k-1 mil)

**Bernier-another reclamation project, might playing close to home be a big motivator?(700k-900k)

**Ruutu-rough and tumble bottom 6 guy in the same mold as White(700-900k)

**Mara-could be a fit to add depth and a physical edge(700-900k)

**Boynton-could add depth and experience on defense(700-900k)

I can aloso see PG looking for a salary dump maybe from TB(Ohlund/Malone) or a player who's team walks away from Arbitration(see Dumont and McArthur in the past). Malone and Clarkson are two of the "dumps" I could see.

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07-21-2011, 10:23 AM
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It's interesting how we are capable of rolling 3 lines of offense right now. Eller on his ELC gives us the flexibility to do that. I think Gauthier realized we can do that and snatched Cole to add to the top line which should bump AK to the 3rd line. This should also bring back the chemistry Eller and AK had last season.

This leaves the checking line and defense. We need a good PKer. We have Pleky and Moen as the top PKers. DD has killed penalties IIRC. Gionta and Cammy can step in if necessary, but I'd rather keep the top 6 for 5-on-5.

PK lines:
Pleky-Moen
???-DD/White
Gionta if someone's out.

The misconception is that we need a centre. We have White and DD who have been natural centres. I'd rather see DD playing with skilled players (Eller) and White fits that. The only issue is faceoffs. Halpern was solid at that, but we do have Engqvist who will get ice-time because he's Martin's type of player. Will never be in the doghouse.

Defense on the other hand is a little thin. I'd love to sign Hannan to a 1-year deal. Plan B = Mara. He enjoys it here. He has a great beard come playoff time. Oh and he beats up people. Oh and you know, he can play defense too.

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- Sign Paul Mara to a one year contract (725k)

- Sign Brad Winchester to a one year contract (850k)

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07-21-2011, 12:19 PM
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Here are some of the players remaining that I could see us signing...rated them by "*****"(no 5 star players left).

****Prospal-could play 3rd line with Eller and AK(1.5-2 mil)

****Drury-could be a decent fit if his health permits, he is only 34 and two years from a 56 point season plus a guy that knows how to win(1-1.5 mil)

****Eminger-could be solid depth as #4-6, only 27(1-1.3 mil)

****Hannan-not the player he once was, but I could see him as a #4-5 to take some heat off Markov and Subban on PK and defensive assignments(1.2-2 mil)

****Madden-would be a nice fit as #4 center and PK specialist(900k-1 mil)

*****Winchester-fits perfectly in the player we need on the bottom 6, can fight and still contribute, brings size at 6'5" 230lbs(1-1.5 mil)

***Bitz-if he can get healthy, he is a guy that has size and decent skills(800-1 mil)

***Voros-could add a physical element to 4th line(800k-1 mil)

***Dumont-more of a reclamation project, can play center or wing, sign him for bottom 6 depth, with a rebound he could push our top 6 wingers.(800k-1 mil)

***Stillman-could play 3rd line and sub in on the top 6 in case of injuries(800k-1mil)

***Grier-big bottom 6 winger who can contribute on PK(900-1 mil)

***Bodie-could add size and physicality to the 4th line(800k-1 mil)

**Rivet-could he be an option for depth? To me he is better than he showed in Buffalo, plus a character guy(800k-1mil)

**Staois-brings a lot to the locker room, grizzled vet that knows how to win, does he have anything left?(800k-1 mil)

**Clark-could help out in the bottom 6(700-800 k)

**Zherdev-very talented, is he worth the gamble?(900k-1 mil)

**Bernier-another reclamation project, might playing close to home be a big motivator?(700k-900k)

**Ruutu-rough and tumble bottom 6 guy in the same mold as White(700-900k)

**Mara-could be a fit to add depth and a physical edge(700-900k)

**Boynton-could add depth and experience on defense(700-900k)

I can aloso see PG looking for a salary dump maybe from TB(Ohlund/Malone) or a player who's team walks away from Arbitration(see Dumont and McArthur in the past). Malone and Clarkson are two of the "dumps" I could see.
I would pick one of these or Adam Mair.

I thought Bernier has already signed somewhere...

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07-21-2011, 01:14 PM
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It's interesting how we are capable of rolling 3 lines of offense right now. Eller on his ELC gives us the flexibility to do that. I think Gauthier realized we can do that and snatched Cole to add to the top line which should bump AK to the 3rd line. This should also bring back the chemistry Eller and AK had last season.

This leaves the checking line and defense. We need a good PKer. We have Pleky and Moen as the top PKers. DD has killed penalties IIRC. Gionta and Cammy can step in if necessary, but I'd rather keep the top 6 for 5-on-5.

PK lines:
Pleky-Moen
???-DD/White
Gionta if someone's out.

The misconception is that we need a centre. We have White and DD who have been natural centres. I'd rather see DD playing with skilled players (Eller) and White fits that. The only issue is faceoffs. Halpern was solid at that, but we do have Engqvist who will get ice-time because he's Martin's type of player. Will never be in the doghouse.

Defense on the other hand is a little thin. I'd love to sign Hannan to a 1-year deal. Plan B = Mara. He enjoys it here. He has a great beard come playoff time. Oh and he beats up people. Oh and you know, he can play defense too.
We need a center that can win faceoffs and take defensive assignments. White is a winger, his game is to play with energy and crash and bang. Desharnais would be better playing with Eller and AK on the wing with less defensive responsibility at his size.

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- Sign Paul Mara to a one year contract (725k)

- Sign Brad Winchester to a one year contract (850k)
Winchester for 1 year would probably be around 1.3-1.5 mil...I think we could get him for 2-3 years ar around 1.1-1.3 mil.


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I would love to see Madden in Montreal. Nicely completes the 4th line and can be part of the 1st PK wave, giving a guy like a Plekanec a bit more resting time.

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I think Corey Stillman would be a good addition to round out the 3rd line with Eller/AK. He can also play top 6 minutes in the event of injuries, and has had good chemistry with Cole. 1 yr deal around $2 million would be a good depth move.
Agree about his flexibility to play on almost any of the top 3 lines, but still doesn't address our need for more sandpaper.

Moen is gettng too old to be a policeman and while you have to love WHite's ability to take it to the opposition, he's a middleweight and needs some support.

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Winchester for 1 year would probably be around 1.3-1.5 mil...I think we could get him for 2-3 years ar around 1.1-1.3 mil.
He's huge, can fight and could chip in 5-10 goals with 20 points.... ya, perfect guy to support White and Moen with the other teams tough guys.

Why PG doesn't see the need every year is beyond me?

You would have thought the hit on Max and no retaliation on our part would have woken him up.


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Agree about his flexibility to play on almost any of the top 3 lines, but still doesn't address our need for more sandpaper.

Moen is gettng too old to be a policeman and while you have to love WHite's ability to take it to the opposition, he's a middleweight and needs some support.
I wouldn't call White a lightweight much less a middleweight...

He's just a guy who will drop them when needed...


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He's huge, can fight and could chip in 5-10 goals with 20 points.... ya, perfect guy to support White and Moen with the other teams tough guys.

Why PG doesn't see the need every year is beyond me?

You would have thought the hit on Max and no retaliation on our part would have woken him up.
From a lot of reports, Gauthier is high on Winchester, and he has yet to sign. Doesn't mean either that Montreal is still the race - Winchester could just not be willing to play for us.

Aside from him I don't really see anyone else who scream "sign me" and who would absolutely be a upgrade over the rest of our bottom-6.

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Winchester for 1 year would probably be around 1.3-1.5 mil...I think we could get him for 2-3 years ar around 1.1-1.3 mil.
And I would jump on that for winchester. Dude is tough as nails and people keep forgetting that he scored 10 goals last year.

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And I would jump on that for winchester. Dude is tough as nails and people keep forgetting that he scored 10 goals last year.
I would do it no problem...not sure if PG and JM want him or not.

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And I would jump on that for winchester. Dude is tough as nails and people keep forgetting that he scored 10 goals last year.
I would like Winchester as well..but 1.5M seems a tad high, though tough to say at this point.

Also, if the Habs did sign him...I hope no one has any illusions that he's some type of ace enforcer.

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I think we should sign Scott Hannan.
Be a great guy to re-place Hamrilk with and can play in top 4 if needed
he need to think what if someone got injure.
he could fill in and maybe in the season we could trade spacek and he could re-place him

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From a lot of reports, Gauthier is high on Winchester, and he has yet to sign. Doesn't mean either that Montreal is still the race - Winchester could just not be willing to play for us.

Aside from him I don't really see anyone else who scream "sign me" and who would absolutely be a upgrade over the rest of our bottom-6.
What reports ? Just wondering because hed add toughness because it sounds like he can play ( 4th liner talent ) , hes huge and hits. Sounds good.

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I'd take a flyer on Vinny Prospal for 1 year in a heart beat.

Still think if we don't eat some of them Hamrlik minutes we could be in trouble.

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1) Sign Hannann for 2 years @ 2.5 per.
2) Trade Gomez to the Islanders for draft picks.
3) Trade Gill and Schultz to the Kings for Clifford.
4) Trade White to Devils for Clarkson.
5) Sign Boynton as 7 d-man.
6) Sign Madden for 4th line C or Mair either one will be good.
7) Trade Spacek to Leafs for Komisarek.

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Stillman, Madden, Winchester and Mara are all guys I'd be fine taking a flyer on.

Hannan and other D types... no thanks. Our D depth is clearly alot better then most posters realize. If we have to spend more then 800k adding another depth D-man, the cons far outweigh the gains imo.

I'm also fine rolling with what we have. A couple depth forwards would be nice, but certainly not required.

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