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07-19-2011, 09:17 PM
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Well he's been quite lucky. His BABIP is .256 and he's stranding more runners than league average and what he's shown over his career so far (84% strand rate). His xFIP is almost 2 full points higher than his ERA. Signs are pointing towards him crashing down soon. Still a good pitcher but he's pitching over his head right now.
the reason he's playing better than he used to is because

a. he's young and still growing
b. he has changed his pitching style since he realized he's better as a contact pitcher than a power pitcher.

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07-19-2011, 09:33 PM
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the reason he's playing better than he used to is because

a. he's young and still growing
b. he has changed his pitching style since he realized he's better as a contact pitcher than a power pitcher.
Those aforementioned stats don't lie, sorry.

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No the guy is not MVP worthy, no pitcher is.

Brian Wilson? No reliever should be in the discussion for CY Young, it's a different ball game.

I hate how everyone caters to the Phillies just because they are the Phillies and who they have. If you wanna dive more into it, Hudson and halladay's careers are almost dead on even. However(and maybe true)they talk like Halladay is 1000 times better and you wouldnt realize the comparison without doing the homework on your own.

Yes Jurrjens would likely be the 4th starter in Philly, wins are overrated as its a team stat more so. However...ERA speaks for itself. I think the CY young has a bunch of credentials to it, Wins possibly to a degree, playing on a winning team, maybe walks to strikeouts ratio, ERA among other things. I think Jurrjens is worthy but unfortunatly in a possibly undeserving matter will fall victim to the media because he's not a phillie.

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07-25-2011, 10:57 AM
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Hudson and halladay's careers are almost dead on even.

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i started replying to that and i was 3 paragraphs in with no end in sight.

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07-29-2011, 07:33 PM
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btw, since this thread was made on july 1:

24 innings
.832 ops v.
21/10 k/bb
12 runs

so, no cy young award. maybe we can get him an autographed rick mahler 8x10.

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07-29-2011, 07:46 PM
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btw, since this thread was made on july 1:

24 innings
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12 runs

so, no cy young award. maybe we can get him an autographed rick mahler 8x10.
Good point. I almost forgot when they're looking for Cy Young candidates they only look at starts between July 1st and July 29th.

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Good point. I almost forgot when they're looking for Cy Young candidates they only look at starts between July 1st and July 29th.
what they look at are candidates who are good.

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what they look at are candidates who are good.
Haha just messin' with you man. I did kind of sound like a smartass though I admit.

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oh i don't give a ****. the thread starter has disappeared though...

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4.03 ERA since this thread was made.

MVP! MVP! MVP!

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4.03 ERA since this thread was made.

MVP! MVP! MVP!
Jairus Byrd was supposed to get 13 INT's for the Bills too but that didn't turn out so well either.

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Since we're in the spirit of jinxing, CC and Beckett should probably win Cy Youngs this year. And Gonzalez, Pedroia, Teixeira, Ellsbury and Granderson will all be fighting for the AL MVP!


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the thread starter has disappeared though...
Joys of the internet. You're not the only one who waits for explanations to these quandries.

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Since we're in the spirit of jinxing, CC and Beckett should probably win Cy Youngs this year. And Gonzalez, Pedroia, Teixeira, Ellsbury and Granderson will all be fighting for the AL MVP!

Um....Justin Verlander?

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well he's on the dl now. apparently was trying to play through a knee injury. after looking at his starts since the all star break, i kind of wish he hadn't.

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There's really no surprise tonight. The Nats own the Braves. They have ever since they became the Nats basically.

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this is just the thread that keeps on giving.

since this thread was created (july 1) in 47.1 innings:

28 runs
26/21 k/bb

mvp! where's john cena been?

i stand by what i said a few weeks ago. an autographed rick mahler picture is about all jurrjens deserves.

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Even MVP-type players go through slumps. Why should Jurrjens be an exception?

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Even MVP-type players go through slumps. Why should Jurrjens be an exception?
Because he's not, never has been and never will be an MVP type player. The point now is to show how ridiculous this thread is.

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edit title to justin verlander.

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Because he's not, never has been and never will be an MVP type player. The point now is to show how ridiculous this thread is.
No pitcher should EVER be a MVP.

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disagree. it just takes quite a bit to make a pitcher an mvp. pedro should have been mvp in 1999 and/or 2000. i could make an argument for verlander.

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disagree. it just takes quite a bit to make a pitcher an mvp. pedro should have been mvp in 1999 and/or 2000. i could make an argument for verlander.
When you play every 5 days as opposed to every day it's hard to make that case. It's even harder to give just 1 pitcher the credit to a teams success. They had to be decent the other 4 days for that 5th guys work to even matter.

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