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08-01-2011, 12:35 PM
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I'm all for picking up White. Having depth/experience in the NHL lineup is valuable. Let the kids develop slowly (ala Red Wings). No need to rush Hamilton, Lander, Petry, Teubert, etc.

And I'd be happy to see Chorney go bye-bye too!

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08-01-2011, 12:37 PM
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For anyone thinking the Oilers are going to claim White, be prepared to be disappointed. White has been offered around the league since the end of the season, no teams wanted to trade for him. If the Oilers didn't want to trade something (Possibly salary etc.) to get White's services, they're just as unlikely to want White at $3 million without shedding any salary. They might be interested once he becomes an UFA, but somehow I doubt it, I mean, there's nothing in his game that suggests he's a significant upgrade over Jim Vandermeer, and the Oilers obviously didn't want him back, so...

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Please just get White Tambo. He'd be a perfect addition
You mean if he wasn't terrible at hockey now, right? White is awful.

Hunter might be someone to look at, to add a veteran presence and some grit.

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If he is playing with Whitney does it matter?
Maybe this allows us to move Gilbert (if that's our intention) and allows Petry a chance to play with a solid/responsible vet?

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Not sure. Peckham could move to RD, and White could move to LD then.
Someone could probably just ask some of the Devils fans which position he played.

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08-01-2011, 12:39 PM
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For anyone thinking the Oilers are going to claim White, be prepared to be disappointed. White has been offered around the league since the end of the season, no teams wanted to trade for him. If the Oilers didn't want to trade something (Possibly salary etc.) to get White's services, they're just as unlikely to want White at $3 million without shedding any salary. They might be interested once he becomes an UFA, but somehow I doubt it, I mean, there's nothing in his game that suggests he's a significant upgrade over Jim Vandermeer, and the Oilers obviously didn't want him back, so...
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You mean if he wasn't terrible at hockey now, right? White is awful.

Hunter might be someone to look at, to add a veteran presence and some grit.
This was likely cap related for NJ, however if he's as bad as you are both saying he is, then count me out on wanting him to be claimed by us.

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08-01-2011, 12:40 PM
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He finished last season with a knee injury and is 33. I'm not an expert, but there's reason for concern. If he's 100% healthy, I don't see how we can pass him up.

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For anyone thinking the Oilers are going to claim White, be prepared to be disappointed. White has been offered around the league since the end of the season, no teams wanted to trade for him. If the Oilers didn't want to trade something (Possibly salary etc.) to get White's services, they're just as unlikely to want White at $3 million without shedding any salary. They might be interested once he becomes an UFA, but somehow I doubt it, I mean, there's nothing in his game that suggests he's a significant upgrade over Jim Vandermeer, and the Oilers obviously didn't want him back, so...
Waivers could just be the first part and then a trade after. We did it last year with O'Sullivan for Vandermeer.

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This was likely cap related for NJ, however if he's as bad as you are both saying he is, then count me out on wanting him to be claimed by us.
Think Studwick, but he plays more and is paid alot more. He's awful, just ask a Devils' fan.

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He finished last season with a knee injury and is 33. I'm not an expert, but there's reason for concern. If he's 100% healthy, I don't see how we can pass him up.
Given the whole LA debacle it should be quite clear that White has to be healthy to be bought out.

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He finished last season with a knee injury and is 33. I'm not an expert, but there's reason for concern. If he's 100% healthy, I don't see how we can pass him up.
Can't be bought out if he's injured.....see Fraser, Brule, LA mess for more info.....

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You mean if he wasn't terrible at hockey now, right? White is awful.

Hunter might be someone to look at, to add a veteran presence and some grit.
I think you have that backwards.

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08-01-2011, 12:59 PM
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Think Studwick, but he plays more and is paid alot more. He's awful, just ask a Devils' fan.
Haha.. Devils fans have been saying he was better than Volchenkov last year..

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I think I'd rather wait out on filling that final contract until at least training camp to see if anyone else a little more enticing tries to be slipped through.

Really though considering the Oilers contract # situation I'd be surprised if the team is putting in a claim for anyone any time soon.

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Think Studwick, but he plays more and is paid alot more. He's awful, just ask a Devils' fan.


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Wait, you were serious? Devils fans are saying White > Volchenkov. I'm sure Strudwick is better than both of them though.

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If White was really being offered around the league and the Oilers decided to trade for Sutton instead, then there really is a problem here.

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Haha.. Devils fans have been saying he was better than Volchenkov last year..
Then Volchenkov had an awful season, because White is BRUTAL.

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08-01-2011, 01:26 PM
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Don't sign anyone now over 32 and wait for the next Grabner. Forget about any waiver players that don't fit this criteria. Be really alert Tambo, as you blew it last year not using your first wavier pick advantage.

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08-01-2011, 01:27 PM
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For what it's worth, Colin White didn't have an atrocious plus/minus on the devils when most guys did. And it's not like he wasn't a regular either. He played 2nd/3rd pairing minutes.

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If White was really being offered around the league and the Oilers decided to trade for Sutton instead, then there really is a problem here.
Part of the Sutton deal was moving Foster. Maybe NJ didn't want him?

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Then Volchenkov had an awful season, because White is BRUTAL.
Really, what gave you this impression? White was one of their best defensemen last year and would definitely be worth picking up.

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Don't sign anyone now over 32 and wait for the next Grabner. Forget about any waiver players that don't fit this criteria. Be really alert Tambo, as you blew it last year not using your first wavier pick advantage.
So does Barker qualify? Because he's in that wheelhouse.

Ugh, Grabner was a complete surprise, stop pretending like he was some kind of "sure thing". He was given away by the team that drafted him, and then waived by the team who he was given to, that's hardly a "can't miss" situation.

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Really, what gave you this impression? White was one of their best defensemen last year and would definitely be worth picking up.
What gives me that impression, from what I've seen and heard about him, he's slow and awful.

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So does Barker qualify? Because he's in that wheelhouse.

Ugh, Grabner was a complete surprise, stop pretending like he was some kind of "sure thing". He was given away by the team that drafted him, and then waived by the team who he was given to, that's hardly a "can't miss" situation.
Totally disagree, it was fairly obvious Grabner would be a top six forward in the league. He already recorded an NHL hat trick before he was waived. The panthers waived him because he didn't have a good training camp. If the oilers did what the panthers did Peckham would have been waived. It was a dumb move plain and simple and the oilers and leafs weres stupid to pass on him in waivers as well.

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What gives me that impression, from what I've seen and heard about him, he's slow and awful.
Well, you're wrong. He's on the slow side but he's not awful, you must have heard from people who didn't watch him play. He's not a world beater but he's a lot better than Sutton, i can tell you that much.

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