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08-03-2011, 11:17 PM
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The thing is that Lapierre by being a total troll incites the opposing team to crank it up physically while we have a speedy and technical team. Moreover, Lappy thinks he's Cammy, just look at the photoshop on HabzTv. He'd have the right attitude if he were top 6 (or at least his teammates and opposing players would accept it better), but as a bottom 6 guy, it doesn't work out great.

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08-03-2011, 11:39 PM
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He didn't ask for a trade. He asked for a meeting to talk about his future and that since CLEARLY Martin demonstrated to him times and times again that he was not needed, well if it was the case, then moving him would be better.
Sorry WS, but that IS asking for a trade. Martin insisted that he stayed in the bottom 6. 4th line most of the time. I see no problem with that. Lappy did though. He said that he deserved to play a bigger role. Listen I liked Lappy and what he brought to the team. Decent PK too, but the truth is that he either straight up asked for a trade or gave them an ultimatum: since Martin won't slide me up the depth chart, then maybe I'm better off somewhere else. Same thing in my eyes.

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The thing is that Lapierre by being a total troll incites the opposing team to crank it up physically while we have a speedy and technical team.
I think this is entirely right, and ought to be considered by posters who want provocative players every season. Further, it's an explanation for why players like Moen may be a bit more tame once they're in Montreal.

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I miss Lapierre, he was one of my favorite players when he was with us, but he requested the trade, I was really upset when it happened, and still wish him the best.

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I think this is entirely right, and ought to be considered by posters who want provocative players every season. Further, it's an explanation for why players like Moen may be a bit more tame once they're in Montreal.
You get players like Laraque and Moen to NOT BE tame and bring physicality, trolling and brawn go hand in hand. If Moen isn't doing his job (and he hasn't) it's his own fault.

And the whole agitating mentality really held back the Bruins, right?

How about Subban and Cammy and Pleks who are very reviled around the league? Moen shouldn't back them up?

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You get players like Laraque and Moen to NOT BE tame and bring physicality, trolling and brawn go hand in hand. If Moen isn't doing his job (and he hasn't) it's his own fault.

And the whole agitating mentality really held back the Bruins, right?

How about Subban and Cammy and Pleks who are very reviled around the league? Moen shouldn't back them up?
It's one thing having guys willing to respond physically, it's another thing to have a guy who will stir it up and then run away, never manning up to protect players on the top 6 since he thinks he's top 6 worthy and that guys like Moen should defend him...

Also, we have different team characteristics-strenghts than Boston. We shouldn't try to play their game, we should try to play ours.

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Sorry WS, but that IS asking for a trade. Martin insisted that he stayed in the bottom 6. 4th line most of the time. I see no problem with that. Lappy did though. He said that he deserved to play a bigger role. Listen I liked Lappy and what he brought to the team. Decent PK too, but the truth is that he either straight up asked for a trade or gave them an ultimatum: since Martin won't slide me up the depth chart, then maybe I'm better off somewhere else. Same thing in my eyes.
No it's not. You show your coach that you care, that you want a bigger role, that the only thing you need to get your groove going is mroe icetime and some confidence on the PK (he's not going to be exactly the only guy who plays with more confidence when he gets more icetime) and if his coach reconsiders it.....Lapierre is not moving.

Asking for a trade is to actually ask for it. No matter what happens, I'm out. That's not what Lapierre had in mind. There were some possibilities to keep him in.

Thing is, do you think that it's the only time a player has gone to his coach and ask for more icetime or for a review of his role in the team? We judge Lapierre on that because he publicly said he did. But do we actually know if Price didn't go to his coach one day and ask to play more or to see what they had in mind for him based on how they were using Halak? Does it make Price asking for a trade? Or any other players in here that ended up in a tougher situation but that we don't know about? I think it's pretty common. Probably more common in teams with coaches that actually do communicate. But it has to be common in here too. And I don't believe it means that they ALL asked for a trade.

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08-04-2011, 10:35 PM
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The thing is that Lapierre by being a total troll incites the opposing team to crank it up physically while we have a speedy and technical team. Moreover, Lappy thinks he's Cammy, just look at the photoshop on HabzTv. He'd have the right attitude if he were top 6 (or at least his teammates and opposing players would accept it better), but as a bottom 6 guy, it doesn't work out great.
So what you're suggesting is to have a quiet and non-physical team? So that we put asleep every team we're playing against and then win everytime? There is one problem to this....The opponents aren't dumb and if they collectively, their coaches won't be and if both of them are....well they are bottom feeders, which we couldn,t care less about 'cause we are actually not trying to finish 12th but to battle for 1st place in the division.

Besides...what do you call Subban? Should we trade him too? Probably amongst the most hating player in this league for whatever stupid reason. A big troll for some. Isn't the guy who will fight either. And for some, that fits in the talk a lot, hides a lot category.....a troll.

Also, for whoever watches hockey in this whole NHL, maybe it's a little time to stop thinking we're just a speedy team. Technical? Yes. Thanks to Martin. And really opportunistic, a great goalie and a fine system. But all-around, this was not a speedy team on the backend. And up front, not exactly dynamos either. We're not the worst in that department, but no flying frenchman either.

As far as the attitude is concerned, I'm sorry but if players can't accept that francos might have more attention and they might have fun with it, well they don't understand the environment they're playing in. And if I'd be playing here but would love to have SOME privacy and some quality of life, I'd LOVE to have my frenchies on board so that they could take ALL the attention and let me do my own business and not be bother by the tons of journalists out there. Unless you are a player who loves the attention and is jealous of it. Pretty sure that doesn't exist.

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08-08-2011, 11:50 AM
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He's a good guy. I'll never say anything bad about Kovalev the person. But as a hockey player, he was never able to accept that sometimes he was part of the problem.

Still had a very successful career despite his warts, so he was doing something right.

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So happy he didn't end up in Montreal again like so many wanted...at least threads asking for Kovalev's return can be put to sleep, well at least for 2 years lol

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-Lol. Gotta admit that's a good one...

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Love the way he loved Montreal, but I'm SO glad we didn't bring him back the last two seasons he spent in Ottawa, and this one especially.

Some of my best hockey memories involve that guy, the comeback goal, the Tucker hit, just to name a couple. I'm not going to dwell on his consistency anymore, we've all heard it a million times, but now that he's out of the NHL it's easier to remember the good parts.

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No it's not. You show your coach that you care, that you want a bigger role, that the only thing you need to get your groove going is mroe icetime and some confidence on the PK (he's not going to be exactly the only guy who plays with more confidence when he gets more icetime) and if his coach reconsiders it.....Lapierre is not moving.

Asking for a trade is to actually ask for it. No matter what happens, I'm out. That's not what Lapierre had in mind. There were some possibilities to keep him in.

Thing is, do you think that it's the only time a player has gone to his coach and ask for more icetime or for a review of his role in the team? We judge Lapierre on that because he publicly said he did. But do we actually know if Price didn't go to his coach one day and ask to play more or to see what they had in mind for him based on how they were using Halak? Does it make Price asking for a trade? Or any other players in here that ended up in a tougher situation but that we don't know about? I think it's pretty common. Probably more common in teams with coaches that actually do communicate. But it has to be common in here too. And I don't believe it means that they ALL asked for a trade.
Sorry WS. Players cannot twist a coach's arm like that.
"Play me more"
"No"
"Okay then I want out"
That's bs. Even a veteran would be criticized for doing that. Players ask for more responsibility all the time, but they don't go "I'm better off elsewhere if you don't." And he did play on the PK. 2nd wave IIRC.

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Sorry WS. Players cannot twist a coach's arm like that.
"Play me more"
"No"
"Okay then I want out"
That's bs. Even a veteran would be criticized for doing that. Players ask for more responsibility all the time, but they don't go "I'm better off elsewhere if you don't." And he did play on the PK. 2nd wave IIRC.
Lapierre wanted to play more, and play center, his natural position.

Martin was not his #1 fan for sure. They took the 1st opportunity to get rid of him.

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Lapierre wanted to play more, and play center, his natural position.

Martin was not his #1 fan for sure. They took the 1st opportunity to get rid of him.
Oh yeah? When were you privy to one of their conference calls?

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Oh yeah? When were you privy to one of their conference calls?
The golden rule of HF:

If you don't the return of a trade, it means your GM wasn't trying hard enough.

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Kovalev criticizes Ottawa's media and praises Montreal's!

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no, surprise, he always has publicly said he loves montreal, he will say anything nice about our city

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It's the 'If they criticize, they do it for cause'... No Kovy, they also have an agenda. You just were too popular to be on their radar for destruction.

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Can you really blame the guy?

He was playing for friggin' Ottawa. One of the most emotive and moody players in the league, playing in one of the most emotionless and boring cities in the NHL.

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Can you really blame the guy?

He was playing for friggin' Ottawa. One of the most emotive and moody players in the league, playing in one of the most emotionless and boring cities in the NHL.
Everyone knows he only did so due to its proximity to Montreal and US east in general

He didn't get a contract with the teams he wanted so he was like "**** it, guess if they're going to give me 5m a season I'll take it "

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