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08-05-2011, 09:44 AM
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really? If you were making millions of dollars and at a televised interview where you're representing your company you'd say that? awesome.
the nhl made that a much bigger deal than it really was. no need to suspend him and send him to rehab for that. derek jeter wouldn't say it, but it still isnt that bad.

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To come inside your house they do, without you inviting them. If you say "come on in" then yeah they can come in and then pretty much search your entire house. If they force their way inside without a warrant and without your permission, then anything they might find (drugs, etc) is inadmissible as any kind of evidence.
They don't need a warrant if they have probable cause to believe that a crime is being committed inside. Not saying that was the case, but that's how it works.


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What was that saying that Forrest Gump always used?

I think it applies here.

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******* the POlease!

This is nothing though, it's natural to be prickly when the police try to enter your home for no good reason, it's your property, you pose no actual threat to society. In the end though, it's better to just cooperate and fight in court if warranted.

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08-05-2011, 09:56 AM
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They don't need a warrant if they have probable cause to believe that a crime is being committed inside. Not saying that was the case, but that's how it works.
Basically they don't need a warrent if they suspect something and will make up any BS reason to be probable cause.

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08-05-2011, 09:58 AM
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...And the dream summer isnt such a dream afterall...

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If it was anyone else i'd write it off as boys will be boys. Not the first time a hockey player had a few beers and got himself in a situation. Many of these guys have done far worse and laughed to talk about it. God only knows what just went down with Biznasty and his boys out in Vegas! Anyway, for Avery this incident i don't think is as easily dismissed. This is Avery here. He's got quite the history. And the Rangers knew that going in. However, this year is different. In the past the Rangers were stagnant, and weithout identity when Avery wasen't in the lineup. He was like jumper cables, injecting a spark into the club. Now things are different. Avery is now fighting for a Roster spot this year. Pushing a cop, becuase he was doing his job by responding to a disturbance call is just bad decision making. If the Rangers feel that Avery is going to be a liability by making bad decisions this year...he's not going to be around.

So yeah, small offseason incident. But an incident for a guy that doesn't need any more incidents.

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08-05-2011, 10:03 AM
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...And the dream summer isnt such a dream afterall...
Not like Avery was going to be an integral part of this team...doubt this affects anything on the hockey side anyways

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...And the dream summer isnt such a dream afterall...
lol...You're not serious....are you?

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Basically they don't need a warrent if they suspect something and will make up any BS reason to be probable cause.
Yep. Probable cause has become "possible" cause except in very important cases.

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08-05-2011, 10:08 AM
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Not like Avery was going to be an integral part of this team...doubt this affects anything on the hockey side anyways
Yea, just like his play.

Hopefully this shove is the shove Rangers brass needs to ensure hes not on the roster this year. There was a time when he was useful to the team; that time is long gone.

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Haha, what an idiot!

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Any other player and this news disappears by the start of next week. With Avery though? This is going to linger and be another mark on his career.

Double standards baby.

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08-05-2011, 10:14 AM
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Any other player and this news disappears by the start of next week. With Avery though? This is going to linger and be another mark on his career.

Double standards baby.
He deserves every "double standard" thrown his way.

Guy is a sociopath.

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Hank was there and the cops were getting to close.

YOU CAN'T TOUCH HANK. NO ONE TOUCHES HANK.

Just getting ready for the season is all.

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Any other player and this news disappears by the start of next week. With Avery though? This is going to linger and be another mark on his career.

Double standards baby.
Might be because of his record of "poor judgement"?
Usually it is easier to get away with things the first, second, or even third time.
Then it just becomes typical of a person to get into situations like this one

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He deserves every "double standard" thrown his way.

Guy is a sociopath.
And you're so obsessive when it comes to him it's creepy. Get over it.

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BREAKING NEWS: Sean Avery isn't that swell of a person.
But but he did that commercial he must be a nice guy. Any idea on the fallout of this?

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To come inside your house they do, without you inviting them. If you say "come on in" then yeah they can come in and then pretty much search your entire house. If they force their way inside without a warrant and without your permission, then anything they might find (drugs, etc) is inadmissible as any kind of evidence.

however if you push one of them even if they're in your house illegally you're still ****ed.

Never worth touching a police officer in any way even if they're doing something blatantly illegal...

Avery's problem is that it sounds like he went outside to talk to them, and once you do that you kinda get stuck. Yeah he didn't violently assault anyone, just wanted to go back in his house, but if he never left his house then it wouldn't have been an issue at all.
Not true actually. If the police are called to your house for a disturbance call, as they were, they are there on official business. If the homeowner refuses to cooperate, as was the case here it seems iniatlly with avery, the police dont need a warrant to further investigate the incident. That would include where as happened here, the homeowner refusing to either turn down the noise or refusing to listen. The police can enter the home to investigate further. They would need a warrant to SEARCH the house, but not to enter it to investigate the crime, whatever that may be.

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What situations? Avery has never been in trouble with the police before. Has never missed a practice. His mouth gets him in trouble. He is not Matt Cooke who tries to end careers.

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really? If you were making millions of dollars and at a televised interview where you're representing your company you'd say that? awesome.
He's a hockey player not an important millionaire on the economic or political stage. His comment was stupid and crass but anyone realistically thinkin it's even worth bringing it up as an indicator or judgement of his character is seriously overboard. The comment was referred to bcause it was a publicized incident not because it was horrible .

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They don't need a warrant if they have probable cause to believe that a crime is being committed inside. Not saying that was the case, but that's how it works.
Exactly. LOL. A much more condensed version than I just wrote lol

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08-05-2011, 10:21 AM
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And you're so obsessive when it comes to him it's creepy. Get over it.
Am I the one coming up with excuse after excuse to defend his selfish and stupid behavior? You need to look in the mirror, buddy.

I think hes a borderline NHL player these days that does nothing to help this team win, and I want him off the roster. God, Im so obsessed!!!

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What situations? Avery has never been in trouble with the police before. Has never missed a practice. His mouth gets him in trouble. He is not Matt Cooke who tries to end careers.
Facts aren't relevant when it comes to Avery.

If it was Prust no one would care.

It's Avery, so he should be off the team. Just ask Bleed Ranger Blue.

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