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08-05-2011, 11:02 AM
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I think he is just doing it to quickly pick up the basics of this particular skill in case he needs it. Kind of like your dad teaching you how to set up a tent and start a fire - he doesn't want you to live in the woods, he just wants you to not stand there crying if you ever need to do it (in the modern world, these skills are obsolete because who would think to leave the house to go somewhere without the playstation?)

MDZ is likely just having fun spending a few minutes after practice having one of the tough guys teach him. I doubt it comes at the expense of other skills. In fact, I bet this shows a commitment to an all-around game, that he recognizes that hockey isn't just about offense.

I also remember people mocking Dubinsky when he first started learning how to fight.
How dare you bring some common sense into this thread!

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08-05-2011, 11:06 AM
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MDZ fighting. Can't wait to see this.

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08-05-2011, 11:11 AM
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So we want Gaborik to drop the gloves. That has worked out well in the past.

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08-05-2011, 11:30 AM
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Not bad for him to learn, especially because he plays a physical game. I hope he can just become an all around player, great offense, solid defense, and able to protect himself when the time comes. Remember when he destroyed Kovalchuk for ****ing with Lundqvist? I am excited to see that type of play from him this upcoming season

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08-05-2011, 01:08 PM
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Not bad for him to learn, especially because he plays a physical game. I hope he can just become an all around player, great offense, solid defense, and able to protect himself when the time comes. Remember when he destroyed Kovalchuk for ****ing with Lundqvist? I am excited to see that type of play from him this upcoming season
That's the key. MDZ plays a physical game and from time to time he's going to have to defend himself. Learning to do that will allow him to remain physical and earn respect as well. Nothing wrong with it.

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08-05-2011, 01:18 PM
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Learning to fight doesn't necessarily mean he's going to drop the gloves all the times. It may have an effect on his overall physical play on the defensive end. IMO, feeling like he has that sort of confidence to drop the gloves would help him.

People are blowing this way out of proportion. I'm glad to hear he's working on a part of his game. I have no doubts that he's been working on his defense since he started struggling.

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08-05-2011, 01:26 PM
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That's the key. MDZ plays a physical game and from time to time he's going to have to defend himself. Learning to do that will allow him to remain physical and earn respect as well. Nothing wrong with it.
exactly, he likes to get his hands dirty sometimes. I think every player should learn to fight just incase the situation calls for such action just so they can be protected

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08-05-2011, 01:27 PM
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I'm curious, how does one exactly learn to play defense? especially in non-game situations? He would actually need to drill with other players for it to mean something.

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08-05-2011, 01:30 PM
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I'm curious, how does one exactly learn to play defense? especially in non-game situations? He would actually need to drill with other players for it to mean something.
I guess people expect him to play against ghosts or something. IDK. You can only study so much film. There's no reason why anyone should get upset if he's doing something other than "working on defense."

If you want to say he should be working on his shot or something, have at it. Although who knows how he's allocating his time in the offseason.

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08-05-2011, 02:13 PM
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Well, he probably has been workign with other players. Studying tape can help too

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08-05-2011, 02:26 PM
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If memory serves me right, Artem Anisimov tried to learn to fight as well a few years ago....ppl are blowing this way out of proportion.

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08-05-2011, 02:26 PM
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I definitely don't mind him learning how to fight. But learing how to play defense is his main priority. If he can keep up with learning how to do both at the same time, I'm all for it.

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I love it...the whole team should learn to fight....stick up for each other....id love it if the rangers stars like Gaborik and Richards would fight a little..they are the rangers leaders and should stick up for each other on the ice.
This is exactly what I don't want to see is Richards and Gaborik fighting, as JD used to say plumbers plumb...so Rotter takes a one line tweet and it's a story? He could be taking boxing lessons for conditioning, strength or agility.

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08-05-2011, 02:38 PM
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That's the key. MDZ plays a physical game and from time to time he's going to have to defend himself. Learning to do that will allow him to remain physical and earn respect as well. Nothing wrong with it.
Exactly. It's not the worst thing to know how to whoop somebody's a**

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08-05-2011, 02:46 PM
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I love it...the whole team should learn to fight....stick up for each other....id love it if the rangers stars like Gaborik and Richards would fight a little..they are the rangers leaders and should stick up for each other on the ice.
your kidding right? U want your star players dropping the gloves? When gaborik breaks a hand because he doesn't know what he's doing, is out for two months and never returns to his normal self shooting wise I think you'd he singing a different tune. There's a reason guys like prust, rupp etc are enforcers because they beat up their hands to punish not score goals, visa versa for the games elites.


Btw how about learning to quarterback a powerplay rather than taking up fighting as a hobby DZ?

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08-05-2011, 02:50 PM
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If memory serves me right, Artem Anisimov tried to learn to fight as well a few years ago....ppl are blowing this way out of proportion.
he asked someone (I forget who) to teach him, and that person said no as it was a stupid idea.

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08-05-2011, 02:55 PM
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he asked someone (I forget who) to teach him, and that person said no as it was a stupid idea.
Huge Speciman. Hughy said not to worry about it and work on his game.

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08-05-2011, 03:00 PM
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again the point is, he wanted to learn how to do it. i dont blame him, sometimes ppl are just going to drop the gloves with you and you want to be able to defend yourself.

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08-05-2011, 03:07 PM
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Is he practicing with Semin?

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Yeah, look at the Stanley cup finals when sedin let himself get sucker punched by a non-fighter much smaller then him. You don't want your players to be on the receiving end of that kind of situation.

It's not a bad thing to learn to defend yourself if need be.

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08-05-2011, 03:15 PM
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i guess prust and rupp are learning how to qb the powerplay.


I'm not going to berate him for it, but I hope he can do what he is supposed to long before he can fight.

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Would rather him learn Muay Thai. The clinch would be great to use in hockey.

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Don't really see a problem with this. I love how Sauer is never afraid to drop the gloves and it would be great if the other defensemen followed suit. Everyone *****es about Lundqvist being run and how our D isn't tough so if MDZ has the willingness to learn to fight that is A-OK with me.

I wish Staal and Girardi had the desire to take fighting lessons. They could learn how to defend themselves (and their teammates) a bit better.

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Not bad for him to learn, especially because he plays a physical game. I hope he can just become an all around player, great offense, solid defense, and able to protect himself when the time comes. Remember when he destroyed Kovalchuk for ****ing with Lundqvist? I am excited to see that type of play from him this upcoming season


If MDZ can become a "two-way" player (i fully expect his offense to always be better, but at least adequate D) with grit, that just makes our d-corp so much better.

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Maybe he should learn how to score first

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