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08-01-2011, 09:01 AM
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I think we are done...

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Kostitsyn - Eller - Desharnais
Darche - White - Moen
Blunden

Markov - Gorges
Gill - Subban
Spacek - Emelin
Weber

Price
Budaj

I want coach Martin to try Desharnais- Eller - A.Kosts, as well, but...not so sure coach Martin will try it? (I hope so 'cause that could end up being a killer line, but Moen would add more veteran experience+defence+toughness to that line in coach Martin's opinion...imo!). Unless Blunden can center the 4th line? (will coach Martin give the 4th line center position to White? we'll see...).


It'll probably be this:

Cammalleri - Pleks - Cole
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Moen - Eller - A.Kosts
Darche/Blunden - Desharnais - White/Blunden
Blunden


Markov - Emelin
Gill/Spacek - Subban
Spacek/Gill - Gorges
Weber
Diaz
Mitera


Price
Budaj


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08-05-2011, 02:14 PM
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Give a 1 yr deal to McCabe

Pierre Gauthier was ready to give 3M$/1yr contract to Roman Hamrlik. Why not fill Hamrlik's with Bryan McCabe? He is a good veteran and at 36 years old I believe he can still play good hockey. I mean he had a 43 points season only two years ago. He pretty much had success everywhere he went, especially against us. I still have nightmare of that Kaberle-McCabe duo on the PP.

He shoots left, though, which could be a problem (Spacek, Markov, Gill, Gorges, Emelin are all lefty). But he has experience, size (6'2 and 220lbs, isnt afraid to drop the gloves and is a bit dirty in the corners). Markov would find his shot very exploitable on the PP.

I'm sure 5 on 5 he can't be worse than Spacek is. If we can trade Spacek, he'd be ideal here:

Markov - McCabe
Gill - Subban
Gorges - Emelin/Weber/Diaz

And even if we can't trade Spacek, carry eight defenceman and let Diaz in the AHL for a while.

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08-05-2011, 02:16 PM
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Because McCabe is not nearly as good as Hamrlik defensively.

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08-05-2011, 02:20 PM
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Because McCabe is not nearly as good as Hamrlik defensively.
Well he might not be, but defensive awareness is not exactly what our d-corp is lacking right now: Gill, Gorges and Markov are all exceptionnal in their own zone. What our blueline lacks is size and a PP QB.

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08-05-2011, 02:23 PM
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Well he might not be, but defensive awareness is not exactly what our d-corp is lacking right now: Gill, Gorges and Markov are all exceptionnal in their own zone. What our blueline lacks is size and a PP QB.
We already have 2 PP QB's in Subban and Markov. What we need is defensive defenseman depth.

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08-05-2011, 02:28 PM
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Well he might not be, but defensive awareness is not exactly what our d-corp is lacking right now: Gill, Gorges and Markov are all exceptionnal in their own zone. What our blueline lacks is size and a PP QB.

Gill is good on the PK. At even strength I would not describe him as exceptional in his own zone. Subban will be busy covering for him the whole season. Habs need another d-man who can at least babysit as opposed to needing a babysitter.

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08-05-2011, 02:31 PM
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We already have 2 PP QB's in Subban and Markov. What we need is defensive defenseman depth.
Hamrlik, or O'Brien or White would had been very good solutions.


Let's now hope that Yemelin can do a fair job at NHL level.

If not, I hope Mara will still be available.

If you want Hannan or McCabe, Spacek must go, or Yemelin and Weber must fail.

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08-05-2011, 02:53 PM
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My final move would be to let the kids battle it out to fill the remaining roster spots.*

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08-05-2011, 03:38 PM
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Gionta-Plekanec-Cammalleri
Desharnais-Gomez-Cole
Pacioretty-Eller-Kostitsyn
Moen-XXX-White/Darche

I still see a need for an experienced 4th line center. If Drury is healthy, I really want him.

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08-05-2011, 03:40 PM
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Well he might not be, but defensive awareness is not exactly what our d-corp is lacking right now: Gill, Gorges and Markov are all exceptionnal in their own zone. What our blueline lacks is size and a PP QB.
Not like McCabe is huge...and he's not a PP QB by any stretch of the imagination and he never was, even in his Leafs days. He was the trigger man, Kaberle was the QB

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08-05-2011, 04:48 PM
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Gionta-Plekanec-Cammalleri
Desharnais-Gomez-Cole
Pacioretty-Eller-Kostitsyn
Moen-XXX-White/Darche

I still see a need for an experienced 4th line center. If Drury is healthy, I really want him.
1- You really want two of your smallest forwards to play on the same line ?

2- Desharnais on a second line and on the wing ! ?????

3- Drury is done. Not a 4th line player anyway.

My lines

Cammy - Pleks- Cole
Pac - Gomez-Gionta
Eller-DD- AK
Moen-White-Darche with possibilities to see Engqvist and/or Blunden.

Not much left on the UFA market

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08-05-2011, 07:20 PM
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Gionta-Plekanec-Cammalleri
Desharnais-Gomez-Cole
Pacioretty-Eller-Kostitsyn
Moen-XXX-White/Darche

I still see a need for an experienced 4th line center. If Drury is healthy, I really want him.
yes.

I really thought eric belanger would have fit this role like a glove... a 2 way centre who can kill penalties and win faceoffs.... perhaps this a role that gets addressed at the deadline.

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08-05-2011, 11:12 PM
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1- You really want two of your smallest forwards to play on the same line ?

2- Desharnais on a second line and on the wing ! ?????

3- Drury is done. Not a 4th line player anyway.

My lines

Cammy - Pleks- Cole
Pac - Gomez-Gionta
Eller-DD- AK
Moen-White-Darche with possibilities to see Engqvist and/or Blunden.

Not much left on the UFA market
On paper it's looking solid. After that top 6, everything seem a toss. I want to like Eller, with his size, reach and skating ability a need for the habs at center.
Desharnais has been able to produce at every level but he's a center or is he a....

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08-06-2011, 06:15 AM
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as time goes by, i'm starting to be really unhappy because gauthier let halpern go. he was our best faceoff guy, only real right handed center and decent penalty killer. i don't see anyone with those charactersitics on the ufa market and i would hate to see another high pick burnt on bottom line center, which might happen during the next season.

i don't understand, are gauthier and martin so high on engqvist or what?

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08-06-2011, 07:39 AM
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1- You really want two of your smallest forwards to play on the same line ?

2- Desharnais on a second line and on the wing ! ?????

3- Drury is done. Not a 4th line player anyway.

My lines

Cammy - Pleks- Cole
Pac - Gomez-Gionta
Eller-DD- AK
Moen-White-Darche with possibilities to see Engqvist and/or Blunden.

Not much left on the UFA market
Cammy - Pleks- Cole
Pacio - Gomez - Gionta
DD/Moen/Darche - Eller - AK
Moen/Darche - White/DD - Darche/White
Blunden


Can't wait to see what Blunden can do for our 4th line (or maybe even 3rd line).


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08-06-2011, 01:46 PM
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1- You really want two of your smallest forwards to play on the same line ?
Why not?

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2- Desharnais on a second line and on the wing ! ?????
So? Lines aren't about 2nd line player-2nd line player-2nd line player. They are about chemistry and finding good fits that compliment each other.

DD played lots of games on the wing last season.

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3- Drury is done. Not a 4th line player anyway.
Tell that to the USA Olympic team, he became one of their most productive players as the tournament wore on.

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My lines

Cammy - Pleks- Cole
Pac - Gomez-Gionta
Eller-DD- AK
Moen-White-Darche with possibilities to see Engqvist and/or Blunden.

Not much left on the UFA market
Funny you put Eller on the wing, but cry wolf when DD is put there.


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Why not?



So? Lines aren't about 2nd line player-2nd line player-2nd line player. They are about chemistry and finding good fits that compliment each other.

DD played lots of games on the wing last season.



Tell that to the USA Olympic team, he became one of their most productive players as the tournament wore on.

My lines

Cammy - Pleks- Cole
Pac - Gomez-Gionta
Eller-DD- AK
Moen-White-Darche with possibilities to see Engqvist and/or Blunden.

Not much left on the UFA market
Funny you put Eller on the wing, but cry wolf when DD is put there.[/QUOTE]

DD is too small to play on a wing. He is not a finisher. He is a passer. Eller is more versatile, bigger, taller too, and can play wing.... Until Gomez fails !

Drury is done. Check his last year stats and medical problems. Ask to the other 28 teams WHY they had not offered him a contract yet ?

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DD is too small to play on a wing. He is not a finisher. He is a passer. Eller is more versatile, bigger, taller too, and can play wing.... Until Gomez fails !

Drury is done. Check his last year stats and medical problems. Ask to the other 28 teams WHY they had not offered him a contract yet ?
But DD is speedy and he'll have better luck getting through on the wings then cross-ice where he gets dominated and stripped of the puck quickly. And when he doesn't have the puck, as a centreman, he gets run over by opponents. If he gets overpowered on the wing, at least your centre can cover up for him to prevent a breakaway or a 3on2 situation. There's a reason the expression "big centre" is popular. We've also seen how Eller played awkwardly and didn't fit when he was put on wing.

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DD is too small to play on a wing. He is not a finisher. He is a passer. Eller is more versatile, bigger, taller too, and can play wing.... Until Gomez fails !

Drury is done. Check his last year stats and medical problems. Ask to the other 28 teams WHY they had not offered him a contract yet ?
Uhm... dude if anything thus far the opposite has been presented to us. DD played alright on the wing and Eller has only been good at center.

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08-06-2011, 09:27 PM
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No kidding, some people are just so clueless when the evidence is right before their eyes.

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Drury is done. Check his last year stats and medical problems. Ask to the other 28 teams WHY they had not offered him a contract yet ?
How do you know he hasn't been offered a contract yet?

I don't know the status of his injuries, neither do you.

And anyways, its just an idea, there are other experienced 4th line options as well.

You seem to be making every single one of your arguments from ignorance.

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Funny you put Eller on the wing, but cry wolf when DD is put there

DD is too small to play on a wing. He is not a finisher. He is a passer. Eller is more versatile, bigger, taller too, and can play wing.... Until Gomez fails !

Drury is done. Check his last year stats and medical problems. Ask to the other 28 teams WHY they had not offered him a contract yet ?

Everytime Eller was put on the wing, he struggles pretty bad.. even on Plekanec's wing. Eller is much more confortable at playing center and DD has no problem playing on the wing. It was pretty obvious last season.


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I was in for getting Drury if his knees were in decent shape, but Andy Strickland tweeted recently that he's contemplating retirement...so either his knees are that bad, or he hasn't gotten any offers from NHL teams (or both). Either way, doesn't look like he's a serious option at this point. Maybe a training camp tryout.

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What about John Erskine as a 5th or 6th defenseman? He brings toughness, playoff experience, size, grit and a mean streak to Montreal.

Add Brad Winchester as a 4th line winger.

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Kostitsyn - Eller - Desharnais
Winchester - White - Moen
Darche

Markov - Gorges
Gill - Subban
Erskine - Emelin
Spacek
Weber

Price
Budaj

Play the Winchester - White - Moen line against the goons and dirty players on other teams and keep them honest.

Erskine add's toughness, depth and a mean streak on defense, alternate the 6'4'' beast with Spacek and/or Weber.

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What about John Erskine as a 5th or 6th defenseman? He brings toughness, playoff experience, size, grit and a mean streak to Montreal.

Add Brad Winchester as a 4th line winger.

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Kostitsyn - Eller - Desharnais
Winchester - White - Moen
Darche

Markov - Gorges
Gill - Subban
Erskine - Emelin
Spacek
Weber

Price
Budaj

Play the Winchester - White - Moen line against the goons and dirty players on other teams and keep them honest.

Erskine add's toughness, depth and a mean streak on defense, alternate the 6'4'' beast with Spacek and/or Weber.
If he's decent in his own end, then I wouldn't mind a physical D like him either. However, don't we have 8D signed already? I doubt PG will do it unless in the case of an injury.

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