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08-03-2011, 08:24 AM
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shocked we haven't had more "Oh this thread again"

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08-03-2011, 08:54 AM
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-burying Khabi makes Edmonton potentially less attractive to free agents
-being a 35+ contract, Khabi's cap hit stays on for the full term of his contract, regardless if he's playing in the NHL, AHL, Russia or if he retires
-as far as we know, he doesn't seem to be creating problems in the dressing room
-he has lots of experience and knowledge he can pass onto Dubnyk to help in his development
-Khabi rebounded nicely in Chicago when everybody had written him off to play in Russia - wouldn't be surprised if he does it again this season
Doubtful on the first one. The same was said about Souray and that doesn't appear to have hurt us.

I also don't really agree with the last one, simply because the Hawks were almost a contender when he rebounded and Bulin is also older now.

The other 3 do make sense though.

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08-03-2011, 01:18 PM
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-burying Khabi makes Edmonton potentially less attractive to free agents
No one would give a flip. In fact, it would have the opposite effect for free agent goalies.

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Doubtful on the first one. The same was said about Souray and that doesn't appear to have hurt us.

I also don't really agree with the last one, simply because the Hawks were almost a contender when he rebounded and Bulin is also older now.

The other 3 do make sense though.
Souray and Khabi situations are completely different.

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08-03-2011, 01:42 PM
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Souray and Khabi situations are completely different.
Sure they are, but it was said when Moreau was going to be bought out it would hurt us when signing UFA's, it was said with Souray to the AHL it would hurt us when signing UFA's and now the same is being said with Bulin? Why?

It's just something fans dream up.

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08-03-2011, 02:13 PM
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Does it accomplish much to do so?

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Does it accomplish much to do so?
If you read the OP, the point was to free up the starter spot for Dubnyk and sign a FA goalie to play the supporting role instead. It's a valid argument.

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If you read the OP, the point was to free up the starter spot for Dubnyk and sign a FA goalie to play the supporting role instead. It's a valid argument.
You can give Dubnyk the starting spot without removing Khabibulin though.

I'm skeptical that the team "just hates playing in front of him" and while playing a reduced role he could find himself being a more effective goalie (he certainly can't drop off much more than last year). To the point where I'm not sure if there's much need for a UFA backup for Dubnyk.


Also, I did read the OP. It didn't answer my question. Rereading it doesn't change my position of wondering if it accomplishes much to bury Khabibulin.

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You can give Dubnyk the starting spot without removing Khabibulin though.

I'm skeptical that the team "just hates playing in front of him" and while playing a reduced role he could find himself being a more effective goalie (he certainly can't drop off much more than last year). To the point where I'm not sure if there's much need for a UFA backup for Dubnyk.


Also, I did read the OP. It didn't answer my question. Rereading it doesn't change my position of wondering if it accomplishes much to bury Khabibulin.
Addition by subtraction.

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08-03-2011, 03:16 PM
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Addition by subtraction.
Which is still accomplished by playing Dubnyk more.

If the team is keen on having Dubnyk be the starter, they don't need to remove Khabibulin in order to do so.


You can believe that Khabibulin will still be as bad as he was last year, and utilize that to motivate going out and signing a backup. But I'm not convinced this team's success is going to be heavily dependent on how well the backup goalie plays. I'm also not convinced that Khabibulin's season will be as bad as it was this year (which was putrid).

In other words, this doesn't appear to me to be a move that accomplishes very much.

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Don't really see the need to use the last contract spot for any of the goalie's on the FA market as a back up.

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08-03-2011, 06:09 PM
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1st we cant bury khabi, hes on a 35+ contract. We can put him on waivers. But those ideas are ridiculous, edmontons not gna compete for a cup for the next few years. there is no big hurry to rush anyone along including dubby, let him earn that #1 spot from khabi..When he takes the #1 spot, bulin will be a decent backup.
Yes khabies numbers we're great last year, so what, We would have finished last regardless. We're rebuilding, not competing for a cup right now. By the time we're ready to compete for a cup, bulin will be retired, and chances are DD will be #1..

If edmonton is going to worry about anything, it should be our Defence, our goaltending isnt great, but its coming along, our offence is coming along also.. Our D is horrendous, But we dont have some nice pieces working there way up threw the pipeline.. Its all gonna take time.

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08-03-2011, 11:05 PM
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He's old enough that his cap hit will still count... so I really don't see a point. We'd either have to sign another goalie(and have another contract and be closer to the limit) or bring someone who might not be ready up from the minors/juniors.

Don't worry. We can bring someone from the AHL up when knabby gets hurt 3 months into the season.

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08-06-2011, 04:05 PM
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If only Boston had buried Tim Thomas in the minors last year.

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If only Boston had buried Tim Thomas in the minors last year.
Yes, of course. Since Khabibulin is coming off a stellar 10-32-4 3.40/.890 season, he is clearly about to shred the NHL alive in 2011-12.

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Yes, of course. Since Khabibulin is coming off a stellar 10-32-4 3.40/.890 season, he is clearly about to shred the NHL alive in 2011-12.
True never to late to right off a goalie of Khabby's caliber, seems like the Oilers throw players under the bus faster now, then when Mactavish coached Zing!

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True never to late to right off a goalie of Khabby's caliber, seems like the Oilers throw players under the bus faster now, then when Mactavish coached Zing!
What's Khabibulin's calibre? Who could he compete with at an equal level now? AHL backups?

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