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Mikhail Pashnin to Play in N.A This Season (UPDATE: Signs extension in Russia)

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08-08-2011, 02:17 PM
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Man, but I thought he was the dark horse to make the team...
But...but...he hit everything in prospects camp??!!

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08-08-2011, 02:29 PM
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After months of the talk that d-man Mikhail Pashnin may join the #NYR, he re-signed with #KHL's CSKA for two more years.
https://twitter.com/#!/dchesnokov/st...95677830184960

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08-08-2011, 03:48 PM
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I wasn't even fully sure he'd be playing in the AHL. I thought he'd spend some time in the ECHL, so I don't really care. Obviously this isn't good new though.

My thoughts on him were made quite clear in prospects polls. I had doubts about him being a top-4 defenseman in Hartford, much less being ready for the NHL.

Let him stay in Russia and earn some money. If next year he proves himself a solid top pair defenseman in the KHL, then he should jump over to the AHL. Moving to Hartford this year would just be a loss of money for him and he would merely get discouraged.

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08-08-2011, 04:20 PM
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Fetisov talked him into staying. He was quoted as saying that Pashnin would be "foolish to come to the USA, because he would end up in the AHL."

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08-08-2011, 05:26 PM
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Bawoosh ... another Russian prospect down the drain this year. I really thought this kid had a shot. It probably didn't take much to convince him to sign when Valentenko is 24, has gone back and fourth to the KHL and has yet to play in the NHL.

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08-08-2011, 05:32 PM
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Oh well, maybe two more years of development will do him some good. He most likely would have been in the AHL, plus there is a logjam with regards to our defense anyhow.

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08-08-2011, 05:53 PM
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But Pashnin, you're gonna get top-notch meals and travel in a private jet with money coming out of Wade Redden's pocket! The AHL isn't that bad!

Can Pashnin opt-out early from his contract to come over, or is he contractually obligated to remain in the KHL during the duration of the contract? Hopefully he doesn't decide to stay in Russia once those 2 years are up.

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08-08-2011, 05:55 PM
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Eh he would have been in the AHL, and probably not in the top-4

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08-08-2011, 06:31 PM
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He's like 12th on our D depth chart, anyway. Let him develop in Russia for another two years. Who cares? It isn't BAD for him.

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08-08-2011, 07:07 PM
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he wont make a ton more money playing in the k but hell do pretty well. all that money goes alot farther when you arent paying half in taxes.

he knew he was a long shot at best to make the team and so would have ended up in the ahl. this again shows the bad rap the ahl has back in mother russia. guys just dont want to come to na to play in hartford, syracuse or hershey.

dont be so quick to judge this guy- hes doing what most marginal russians do. stay home.

however, keep an open mind on russian players because next spring, you will all be bombarded with the following names and everyone, and i mean everyone, will be foaming at the mouth over these 3.

yakupov
grigorenko
galenchyuk


these 3 are not marginal. at all. remember those names.

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08-08-2011, 07:19 PM
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he wont make a ton more money playing in the k but hell do pretty well. all that money goes alot farther when you arent paying half in taxes.

he knew he was a long shot at best to make the team and so would have ended up in the ahl. this again shows the bad rap the ahl has back in mother russia. guys just dont want to come to na to play in hartford, syracuse or hershey.

dont be so quick to judge this guy- hes doing what most marginal russians do. stay home.

however, keep an open mind on russian players because next spring, you will all be bombarded with the following names and everyone, and i mean everyone, will be foaming at the mouth over these 3.

yakupov
grigorenko
galenchyuk


these 3 are not marginal. at all. remember those names.
Especially since 2 of them play in the OHL, and one has chosen to represent the US in international tournaments.

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however, keep an open mind on russian players because next spring, you will all be bombarded with the following names and everyone, and i mean everyone, will be foaming at the mouth over these 3.

yakupov
grigorenko
galenchyuk


these 3 are not marginal. at all. remember those names.
Everyone is already "foaming at the mouth" over these guys!


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he wont make a ton more money playing in the k but hell do pretty well. all that money goes alot farther when you arent paying half in taxes.

he knew he was a long shot at best to make the team and so would have ended up in the ahl. this again shows the bad rap the ahl has back in mother russia. guys just dont want to come to na to play in hartford, syracuse or hershey.

dont be so quick to judge this guy- hes doing what most marginal russians do. stay home.

however, keep an open mind on russian players because next spring, you will all be bombarded with the following names and everyone, and i mean everyone, will be foaming at the mouth over these 3.

yakupov
grigorenko
galenchyuk


these 3 are not marginal. at all. remember those names.
How are you gonna love it when all three are Eastern Conference teams not named the Rangers.

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08-08-2011, 08:12 PM
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Beyond the fact that he elected to stay in Russia is the merit of drafting russian players high to begin with.

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He's like 12th on our D depth chart, anyway. Let him develop in Russia for another two years. Who cares? It isn't BAD for him.
^indeed! I was hoping he'd come over. I thought it was obvious he would be in the AHL learning the N.A. game on N.A. ice but I guess he's happy with the route of developing his game in the KHL and then coming over just like all the other Russian prospects who've successfully completed that development route. like... like... somebody give me a hand on this one?

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Yeah, if he's going to play another two years in Russia, it's not to "develop"--it's to establish his career path. I'd be surprised, based on what we know, to ever see him play an NHL game.

I don't blame him, but let's be reality here.

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Yeah, if he's going to play another two years in Russia, it's not to "develop"--it's to establish his career path. I'd be surprised, based on what we know, to ever see him play an NHL game.

I don't blame him, but let's be reality here.
Yeah, I definitely saw this signing as a pretty obvious hint Pashnin that isn't really one of our prospects anymore.

And I love how natural "Let's be reality" sounds at this point.

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08-08-2011, 08:56 PM
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Beyond the fact that he elected to stay in Russia is the merit of drafting russian players high to begin with.
Pashnin was picked in the 7th round, regardless of his country of origin, he is/was a long-shot to ever make the NHL.

And while picking a player from another country always has it's pitfalls, what are you going to do? Not pick good talent? There are so many variables involved when you're picking someone so young. And many prospects from other countries are willing to gamble by coming over too.

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Yeah, I definitely saw this signing as a pretty obvious hint Pashnin that isn't really one of our prospects anymore.

And I love how natural "Let's be reality" sounds at this point.
It's the heat and the humidity (and the stock market).

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Pashnin's agent says 2-way contract offered by #NYR didn't suit them, so they decided to stay w/CSKA for 2 more years. (SovSport)
https://twitter.com/#!/byndblueshirt...88534684155904

All ELCs are automatically 2 way contracts. The same agent represents Alexander Avtsin who makes $67,500 AHL. The contract slid last season.

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All ELCs are automatically 2 way contracts. The same agent represents Alexander Avtsin who makes $67,500 AHL. The contract slid last season.
honestly whatever, its a 7th round pick with some upside. He'll be 24 when he revisits this again

depth on D is strong without him so have fun in the mother land.

btw if Vtank does not make the team I could see him going back next yr

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Bawoosh ... another Russian prospect down the drain this year. I really thought this kid had a shot. It probably didn't take much to convince him to sign when Valentenko is 24, has gone back and fourth to the KHL and has yet to play in the NHL.
He didn't have a shot, I promise.

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An interview with Dement'ev (Pashnin's agent) was posted in Russian sports newspaper. What a BS from an agent - he said that they decided to stay in KHL because they didn't want to sign 2-way contract (but there is no other option, so ). Otherwise, he mentioned that Pashnin is continuing to work on his skating and other aspects of his game and that they are hoping his development would soon get him a place on Russian national team.
The site also quotes Nemchinov saying that Pashnin, in his opinion was not ready for NHL even though his play improved significantly toward the end of last season including play-offs in Russian junior league.

http://www.sovsport.ru/gazeta/article-item/473084

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