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08-08-2011, 10:33 PM
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i think they could get 120 points if they win 60 games
0 OTL? wow they must be good in overtime/shootout

I think they will do both.

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08-08-2011, 10:34 PM
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CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Scott Gomez ($7.357m) / Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m)
Brian Gionta ($5.000m) / Erik Cole ($4.500m) / Andrei Kostitsyn ($3.250m)
Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / Travis Moen ($1.500m) / Lars Eller ($1.270m)
David Desharnais ($0.850m) / Mathieu Darche ($0.700m) / Ryan White ($0.625m)

DEFENSEMEN
Andrei Markov ($5.750m) / Jaroslav Spacek ($3.833m)
Josh Gorges ($2.500m) / Hal Gill ($2.250m)
Alexei Yemelin ($0.984m) / P.K. Subban ($0.875m)
Yannick Weber ($0.850m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($2.750m) / Peter Budaj ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS: Georges Laraque ($0.500m)

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SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $59,120,509; BONUSES: $400,000
CAP SPACE (21-man roster): $5,179,491

They have four solid lines and a very solid top 4 defencemen, not to mention Price. I'd bet they get to 100pts before they fall out of a playoff spot.

But hey, what do I know?
Just to know, who are the top UFAs after this season that could be trade at the deadline as a rental ? So without giving up too much ? With that cap space, if we are in a playoff run, the Habs might be looking at trading for a good player to add some depth, because even if you think that forward corp is good, I'm not of the same opinion. Not enough consistency after Plekanec and Gionta.

On top of my head, there is Parise, Hemsky, Semin, Smyth and Umberger, but I doubt Habs would have enough to get them, especially for Parise.

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Yea I mean they only needed 2 more wins last year with a depleted D to get 100pts. But hey...INEC.
And now it's going to be a new year, where you start off with 0 points.

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08-08-2011, 10:47 PM
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The Habs scoring 100 points requires Price to maintain or improve upon his .924 save %. That's possible, but unlikely. There are only 2-5 goalies each season that can put up a save percentage that high over the duration of 60+ games, and it's more likely that Price will put up a more "pedestrian" save percentage (say, somewhere between .915-920) then it is he will repeat or do better than his career season, meaning that it is more likely Montreal misses they playoffs than they crack three digits

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08-08-2011, 10:54 PM
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Greater chance they miss the playoffs.

I don't think 100 points or missing the playoffs are very likely.

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08-08-2011, 11:00 PM
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I say 100 points but I'm biased. I do like this thread though. Before both of the last 2 seasons, the so called improvements other teams made in the East were supposed to cast the Habs off to 9th or worse. All the experts and some fans considered it that and yet, they made the playoffs both times. Same goes 07-08 when they were supposed to finish 12th according to a lot of "experts." It was only when everyone picked them to run away with the East in 08-09 that they floundered (beware, Buffalo, beware!).

Really anything is possible with the way it can go in today's NHL and especially if injuries are a problem again (this Hab team has been billed as undersized yet plucky, however it's that undersizedness that's probably led to all the injuries the last 2 years). But hell, I'd put the chances at 20-30% that we can even top Boston for the division. Were 7 points back of them with even more injuries than they had and played 'em tough all the way through. IMO, Buffalo is the wild card. Habs have finished ahead of them all but 1 of the last 4 seasons but they did solidify their D, have a good growing core. Leino IMO is overrated and won't improve their offense so much. That'll come within.

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08-08-2011, 11:01 PM
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100, I don't think getting two more wins is unimaginable.

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08-08-2011, 11:06 PM
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The Habs scoring 100 points requires Price to maintain or improve upon his .924 save %. That's possible, but unlikely. There are only 2-5 goalies each season that can put up a save percentage that high over the duration of 60+ games, and it's more likely that Price will put up a more "pedestrian" save percentage (say, somewhere between .915-920) then it is he will repeat or do better than his career season, meaning that it is more likely Montreal misses they playoffs than they crack three digits
True. Or Markov plays a whole season or close to it. That'd do it too. I think with teams like Montreal no one can tell because there's a lot of homegrown talent next year that will have a chance to make an impact. Boston has been the same. They didn't make a huge amount of UFA splashes either after 2007 but Chiarelli did the right thing. He saw a future plan and after adding Chara and Savard, he let it all fall together and didn't break the bank unless for franchise players. I believe that's what the Habs are trying to do, with Cammy, Gionta and Cole being those vets to help with it. Now it'll take a lot more than that to head where Boston wound up though. There needs to be more display of grit and fortitude though. They were too easily beat up and punished last season, the man games lost indicating that they couldn't take a robust game dealt to them.

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08-08-2011, 11:09 PM
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I like the habs and would like to think 100 pts is possible, but the NE division is looking better than last year so maybe not...?

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08-08-2011, 11:14 PM
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There needs to be more display of grit and fortitude though. They were too easily beat up and punished last season, the man games lost indicating that they couldn't take a robust game dealt to them.
If Yemelin gets suspended more than once, we'll be fine.

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08-08-2011, 11:18 PM
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missing the playoff !

in the end i think they will make the playoff as the 7th or 8th seed with 90 to 95pts and out in the first or second round as usual

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08-08-2011, 11:19 PM
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Get 100 points (they won't get it of course). I just don't see them missing the playoffs, despite the fact that NE is actually one of the most competitive in terms of rivalries.

Boston >>> Montreal > Buffalo > Toronto > Ottawa

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08-08-2011, 11:47 PM
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I don't see them hitting 100 points, but I also don't see them missing playoffs but if I had to choose, I'd go with missing playoffs. I think the East overall has gotten stronger and outside of a rebuilding Ottawa, I don't see them being guaranteed any easy victories from their other opponents in the division. It seems like a toss up with too many 'ifs' so it's probably just the better bet to me to say misses playoffs.

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Get 100 points (they won't get it of course). I just don't see them missing the playoffs, despite the fact that NE is actually one of the most competitive in terms of rivalries.

Boston >>> Montreal > Buffalo > Toronto > Ottawa
Really MTL ahead of Buffalo? I'd put Boston ahead of everyone but not by alot, Buffalo can easily sneak in and take the division. I'd take them missing the playoffs before 100 points just because its a strong division and alot of it would be riding on Price standing on his head again to reach 100.

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Miss the playoffs. The Habs are good, but they're the third best team in the NE. The third best team in the division doesn't get 100 points.

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Miss the playoffs. The Habs are good, but they're the third best team in the NE. The third best team in the division doesn't get 100 points.
I can see where that logic comes from, and in my humble opinion, that's the only valid explanation in this thread as to why the habs would be more likely to miss the playoffs than to rack 100 pts.

its said the habs rely on price, but to be honest if the bruins or the sabres are to finish ahead, they will have to rely on on their goalies as well, and heavily. Tim thomas broke records this year and if it wouldn't be for him, I'm not sure the bruins would have been where they were when game 82 was over and done.

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Really MTL ahead of Buffalo? I'd put Boston ahead of everyone but not by alot, Buffalo can easily sneak in and take the division. I'd take them missing the playoffs before 100 points just because its a strong division and alot of it would be riding on Price standing on his head again to reach 100.
like I said ... there is this misconception that carey price is the only goalie who stood on his head last year... and if you're a bruins fan, you know thomas wasn't human last year.


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100 points. Any Leaf fan opinion on this is automatically invalid.
Same for Habs fan.

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It would be nice if some people actually put some reasoning behind they're opinion....

Anyways, I say more likely to get 100 points.

We were four points away from 100 last season despite a large rash of injuries. Fairly young core with guys like Subban, Eller, Pacioretty expected to make jumps in point productions.

Cole replaces Pouliot which is a major upgrade.

Another way of asking the question could be ' Is it more likely Carey Price carries the Canadiens to 100 points next season or stumbles horribly and misses the playoffs'. I personally wouldn't bet against Price.

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Habs will get 100 points AND miss the playoffs.


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08-09-2011, 06:12 AM
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Closer to the 100 points then missing the playoffs but neither will happen.

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08-09-2011, 06:25 AM
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The Habs scoring 100 points requires Price to maintain or improve upon his .924 save %. That's possible, but unlikely. There are only 2-5 goalies each season that can put up a save percentage that high over the duration of 60+ games, and it's more likely that Price will put up a more "pedestrian" save percentage (say, somewhere between .915-920) then it is he will repeat or do better than his career season, meaning that it is more likely Montreal misses they playoffs than they crack three digits
Price is going to get better, not worse. Also, Martin will keep on fine tuning his defensive strategy to win games and Price's stats will continue to rise.

100 points before not making playoffs.

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08-09-2011, 06:26 AM
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Definitely miss. A lot of improvement in that division save for Ottawa.

I see it being: 1. Boston 2. Buffalo 3. Montreal 4.Toronto 5. Ottawa. Hard to see a 3rd place team hitting 100.

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Miss playoffs and its not even unlikely.

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