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08-08-2011, 09:43 PM
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Hi all,

Long time reader, first time posting. Just thought I'd bring this topic up again, as I would like to see if there has been any speculation on a replacement with Yawney's departure. Has anyone heard any rumors floating around? Or, who do you think the Sharks should target as a replacement? Thanks.

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The Todd gave Jay Woodcroft a bit of a promotion, and he will be working with the forwards.

Matt Shaw is taking over Yawney's former responsibilities of working with the defense.

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Didn't the prospects that Yawney coach only really show true progress after he left?

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08-08-2011, 10:13 PM
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The Todd gave Jay Woodcroft a bit of a promotion, and he will be working with the forwards.

Matt Shaw is taking over Yawney's former responsibilities of working with the defense.

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Hey Sacto, thanks for the link. Haha, guess I didn't dig enough

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There's an interesting debate in the comment section of that article regarding Woodcroft's promotion from video analysis to the bench. I for one am happy to see him get a shot at being a bench coach, given his experiences with 2 high caliber teams (Detroit & San Jose), but would have liked to see someone outside of the organization come in and provide some fresh ideas to the coaching staff.

Also, given that we are in a "win now" mode I would have thought that they would have gone with a coach with more years under his belt.

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There's an interesting debate in the comment section of that article regarding Woodcroft's promotion from video analysis to the bench. I for one am happy to see him get a shot at being a bench coach, given his experiences with 2 high caliber teams (Detroit & San Jose), but would have liked to see someone outside of the organization come in and provide some fresh ideas to the coaching staff.

Also, given that we are in a "win now" mode I would have thought that they would have gone with a coach with more years under his belt.

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Totally agree. TMac is youngish. Woody is ..... well ..... Woody. A coach with a little more experience; not a threat to take TMacs job would have been a good addition. Maybe Woodcroft was promised something?

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WineShark, maybe so... I really think they are taking a gamble by allowing a rookie bench coach take helm with a core that isn't getting any younger. Granted that the players stated that they are confident with his abilities to take over, I believe a more experienced coach would have been a better option with this year's championship push.

But honestly, I don't know too much about coaches and am just going off gut feelings. But as one of the other posters from the article stated, DW and TMac should have a gauge on Woodcroft's ability to lead and command respect from the players. If DW had any doubts, I'm sure he would have said something...

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WineShark, maybe so... I really think they are taking a gamble by allowing a rookie bench coach take helm with a core that isn't getting any younger. Granted that the players stated that they are confident with his abilities to take over, I believe a more experienced coach would have been a better option with this year's championship push.
He had bench duties during the 3rd period of every game last year, so he's not necessarily a rookie.

EDIT: I actually think it was for the last 2 seasons.

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He had bench duties during the 3rd period of every game last year, so he's not necessarily a rookie.

EDIT: I actually think it was for the last 2 seasons.
True, I do remember him behind the bench. Haha, I figured he was just getting a first person's perspective; outside of the backroom's video monitor Perhaps "rookie" was too harsh of a word. But yeah...point taken.

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08-09-2011, 01:11 AM
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There's an interesting debate in the comment section of that article regarding Woodcroft's promotion from video analysis to the bench. I for one am happy to see him get a shot at being a bench coach, given his experiences with 2 high caliber teams (Detroit & San Jose), but would have liked to see someone outside of the organization come in and provide some fresh ideas to the coaching staff.

Also, given that we are in a "win now" mode I would have thought that they would have gone with a coach with more years under his belt.

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Everyone cries for experience but for the most part those guys have experience with failure. The successful ones advance to HC jobs. Yawney had loads of failing experience. Fresh ideas are good and it is generally the younger generation that has them. And for the most part youth in terms of coaching has been proven out by recent cup winners.

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Didn't the prospects that Yawney coach only really show true progress after he left?
As soon as Yawney left Chicago, Duncan Keith improved drastically and won a Norris trophy.

Oh, and a little cup thingy...

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As soon as Yawney left Chicago, Duncan Keith improved drastically and won a Norris trophy.

Oh, and a little cup thingy...
SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.

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As soon as Yawney left Chicago, Duncan Keith improved drastically and won a Norris trophy.

Oh, and a little cup thingy...
If you watched Keith in Norfolk you would have seen that Yawney was huge in his development.
Keith certainly recognizes Yawney's help.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...id=35&id=72793

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If you watched Keith in Norfolk you would have seen that Yawney was huge in his development.
Keith certainly recognizes Yawney's help.

http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/con...id=35&id=72793
I have this theory that Yawney is great for early development but actually holds players back when they need to make that next step to great/elite.

Vlasic is probably the best current example of that. Ehrhoff probably too. I think with Demers will make huge strides this year now that he's out from under Yawney.

Yawney should be the defensive guru for someone's AHL team and stay there...

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I have this theory that Yawney is great for early development but actually holds players back when they need to make that next step to great/elite.

Vlasic is probably the best current example of that. Ehrhoff probably too. I think with Demers will make huge strides this year now that he's out from under Yawney.

Yawney should be the defensive guru for someone's AHL team and stay there...
He didn't do all that well for Norfolk. Keith is his exceptional pupil and he should be credited, but pickings get very lean after that.

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