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08-04-2011, 10:19 AM
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well, your post claims they are being considered, mine says they are in the league.
sorry, yes you are right. I thought you mean "mention as to be in MHL B or rumours too". But you though only "100% participation". Now I see you. I hope that my explanation is understandable (oh my poor english)

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According to VHL rules, every russian based VHL team has to participate at MHL B. There are 20 russian teams in VHL. Two teams (Lada, Rubin) have junior teams in MHL A. There is a list of VHL clubs which dont have juniors in MHL B (including rumours, see #355):

Neftyanik
Sarov
Yuzniy Ural Orsk
VMF Petersburg
Sputnik N.Tagil
Krylya Sovetov - not sure about its situation
Ryazan
Kristall Saratov - not sure, could be misunderstanding with Kristall Chelyabinsk
Ariada Akpars Volzsk
Dinamo Balashika

It is half of them.

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08-04-2011, 11:10 AM
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anyone know goalie Brashkin who played for "Red Army" today? is that the guy from Tolyatti/Kazan'?

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anyone know goalie Brashkin who played for "Red Army" today? is that the guy from Tolyatti/Kazan'?
it is off topic but.. Club sent me camp roster of Red Army. There were two goalies - Filonenko and Oseledec. This info is from mid july. So changes can be made. I dont know this Brashkin guy.

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Оселедец Егор, Филоненко Андрей, Марченко Алексей, Сергеев Андрей, Ожиганов Игорь, Кудряшов Максим, Степанов Стефан, Науменков Михаил, Беленький Леонид, Кондрашов Андрей, Огурцов Дмитрий, Блажиевский Артем, Задоров Никита, Лисов Никита, Демидов Николай, Зверев Максим, Кулемин Вячеслав, Гусев Никита, Кучеров Никита, Прохоркин Николай, Тимирев Александр, Любимов Роман, Барбашев Сергей, Торченюк Александр, Плотников Михаил, Фефелов Игорь, Могила Артем, Кравчук Кристофер, Шиксатдаров Ильдар, Грудаков Александр, Цариченко Никита, Кудреман Алексей, Максимов Дмитрий.

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well Kravchuk is already in Toplar, both goalies names were different (Oseledets is most likely n.1 though - the other are fighting for the back up job)

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According to VHL rules, every russian based VHL team has to participate at MHL B. There are 20 russian teams in VHL. Two teams (Lada, Rubin) have junior teams in MHL A. There is a list of VHL clubs which dont have juniors in MHL B (including rumours, see #355):

Neftyanik
Sarov
Yuzniy Ural Orsk
VMF Petersburg
Sputnik N.Tagil
Krylya Sovetov - not sure about its situation
Ryazan
Kristall Saratov - not sure, could be misunderstanding with Kristall Chelyabinsk
Ariada Akpars Volzsk
Dinamo Balashika

It is half of them.
Neftyanik, VMF and Dynamo all have a team in the MHL-A: Bars, SKA-1946 and HK MVD, respectively. And Kristall Saratov will have an MHL-B team: Kristall Berdsk (which already participated in a pre-season tournament a few days ago). KS are out of VHL, but Efimov confirmed that they will wait for an MHL-B team until the very end (early September, iirc). No idea about other clubs: Sarov, YUO, Sputnik, Ryazan, Ariada.

EDIT: And what about Donbass?

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What is situation with Mikhail Grigorenko ? Will he stay in MHL/KHL or he will play in Quebec Remparts in 11/12 ?

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He's off to QMJHL.

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Neftyanik, VMF and Dynamo all have a team in the MHL-A: Bars, SKA-1946 and HK MVD, respectively.
I can not agree with you. These MHL teams you mentioned are juniors of AK Bars, SKA or Dinamo Moscow. Neftyanik, VMF and Dynamo are their VHL farms. Similar situation is with Salavat Yulaev and Toros - both clubs have MHL teams (Tolpar or Batyr). VHL rules say that every russian club (farms also) has to participate in MHL. Problem is "battle FHR vs MHL" in my opinion. Another situation could be with Ak Bars, they should have two teams in MHL, Bars in MHL A and second one in B-division.

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And Kristall Saratov will have an MHL-B team: Kristall Berdsk (which already participated in a pre-season tournament a few days ago).
I thought they are two different clubs.

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KS are out of VHL, but Efimov confirmed that they will wait for an MHL-B team until the very end (early September, iirc). No idea about other clubs: Sarov, YUO, Sputnik, Ryazan, Ariada.
I know about KS... but my latest info from MHL does not say anything about their participation in MHL B. I have to ask one more time.

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EDIT: And what about Donbass?
According to my information they wont participate in MHL next season. They dont have to, not russian team. I heard that they would like to join MHL later. Who knows?


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Kristall Saratov is related to Kristall Berdsk? can I have a link? absolutely different places geographically....Sarov btw is a farm of Nizhniy; therefore, Chayka...we will see soon...KS I think are a toast.

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Yeah, you're totally right about Berdsk; did a bit of research and found that it's a independent team (link).

About VMF/Neftyanik/Dynamo: I thought that they are in the same system together with their respective KHL & MHL teams, and that's why they don't need another farm club. Did Toros send their players to Tolpar? They had up/down transfers with Salavat, but I don't remember any with the MHL team. I might be wrong, but there's no official documents for the 11/12 season on VHL's homepage (except for the schedule), so it's hard to comment on the subject. Time will tell?

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Yeah, you're totally right about Berdsk; did a bit of research and found that it's a independent team (link).

About VMF/Neftyanik/Dynamo: I thought that they are in the same system together with their respective KHL & MHL teams, and that's why they don't need another farm club. Did Toros send their players to Tolpar? They had up/down transfers with Salavat, but I don't remember any with the MHL team. I might be wrong, but there's no official documents for the 11/12 season on VHL's homepage (except for the schedule), so it's hard to comment on the subject. Time will tell?
you are right, there is not reglement 11/12 at website, I have just this article

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Клубы ВХЛ должны обеспечить участие молодежной команд (для российских дружин) в соревнованиях МХЛ, проводимых в сезоне 2011-2012 годов.
I have no info about transfers among Toros and Tolpar. I just know that some guys from Tolpar (Grigoriev, Frolov) played for Toros as well, not viceversa.

yes, they are at same system but I suppose that (almost) all VHL clubs have their own kid hockey school and reserve team in Pervaya Liga... so they can create MHL team

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Red Army - Amurskie Tigry 9:1 ( 2:0, 4:0, 3:1)
goals: Kucherov (3), Marchenko (penalty), Prokhorkin, Lisov, Shiksatdarov, Torchenyuk, Naumenkov - Smurov
goalie RA: Oseledets

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Red Army - Amurskie Tigry 9:1 ( 2:0, 4:0, 3:1)
goals: Kucherov (3), Marchenko (penalty), Prokhorkin, Lisov, Shiksatdarov, Torchenyuk, Naumenkov - Smurov
goalie RA: Oseledets

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I thoroughly enjoyed this result, even though - many players who played today will not be playing in the MHL next year, not much for sure. And tigers rested some players today. Red Army beat them yesterday too though, just playing the young and try out guys.

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Loko is playing Jokerit today - that will be a good game.

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anyone know goalie Brashkin who played for "Red Army" today? is that the guy from Tolyatti/Kazan'?
It's him. AFAIK he's there on a try-out.
And Loko won Jokerit 2-1

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wow, Brashkin has follen from one of the most talented goalies in his age, to having a try out for a back up position in the MHL.

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We discussed here a topic about duty of russian VHL clubs to join MHL next season. Now I found reglement of VHL, recommend you Статья 12. -1.8., and Статья 66.-1.2, and Статья 144., and Статья 214.-12.

unfortunately there is appendix about "another solution by VHL board"

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Nichushkin scored today in an exibition game vs. Olimpia.

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Nichushkin scored today in an exibition game vs. Olimpia.
I am not sure about this, but another 95 born guy, Loko´s Zakurin scored a goal against Espoo Blues. Is it the same Zakurin who plays for Russia 95?

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interview with Valery Khalyavin, Orenburg, MHL, in slovak. Use google or write here for help.

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Mytischintskiy Atlanti - Red Army 4:3


1:0 Кадейкин (Левицкий, Неколенко, 7:29)
1:1 Шиксатдаров (Фефелов, 15:04)
1:2 Зыков (Могила, Кондрашов, 27:31)
2:2 Шмелев (Шевченко), 36:16, мен.)
3:2 Твердохлебов (37:28)
4:2 Алешин (Декало, 50:02)
4:3 Зыков (Торченюк, Толчинский, 56:26, бол.).
Вратари: Еремин (Шишкин, 33: 53) -- Оселедец (58:45)

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seems that Zykov and Tolchinstkiy were born in 1995

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per post in the forum on allhockey.ru - Lithuania team Baltica is already practicing - so probably they will join MHL-B this season.

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Zakurin, born 95, scored a goal for Loko in finnish trip. His second in trip as I know.
http://www.webhokej24.sk/rusko/aktua...rave-vo-finsku
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http://www.webhokej24.sk/rusko/aktua...-sa-zakurin-95

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