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08-11-2011, 09:32 PM
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i get why some will say that havlat is more durable now but im still very reluctant to acquire players who have had injury success for long stretches regardless of that past season or two. when a player is hurt often they dont usually end up recovering 100% and their bodies continue to break down easily. for me its a personal thing after seeing many injury riddled players get signed and go down with big injuries.

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Just because Heatley was in the lineup doesn't mean he was healthy. Dude was constantly injured while he was here.
playing hurt and being injured are two differnt things. if you are injured you are out of the line up and doing no good. id rather sign a player that gets hurt and is still able to play over a player whos not tough enough to gut out a sore or is often too hurt to even get on the ice. while heatley may have been hurt and played his presence is still better then putting many other sharks out in his place. sure i get the fact that heatley turns the puck over and its a weakness, personally i can live with some of his turnovers. i think the sharks were able to achieve with him in the lineup and knew how to get success out of the team.

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I agree that Havlat is not necessarily an improvement over Heatley; however, I think Havlat brings a speed element which is necessary and that this team needed once we lost Seto
i get why the sharks felt they needed speed. if heatley was to be traded i just feel that id rather trade for somebody else. if it was hard to trade heatley due to NTC or finding a team with cap space unload him for havlat and find another suitable trade partner for someone better then havlat.

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i get why the sharks felt they needed speed. if heatley was to be traded i just feel that id rather trade for somebody else. if it was hard to trade heatley due to NTC or finding a team with cap space unload him for havlat and find another suitable trade partner for someone better then havlat.
I live with it this way. Havlat was traded for Seto and Coyle to have a slightly better Speedy wing. Heatley was traded for Burns in a trade of O for D. All this was worked out during the Burns trade and they had to wait for Heaters NTC trade window to open to complete the deal. Hope that helps

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I live with it this way. Havlat was traded for Seto and Coyle to have a slightly better Speedy wing. Heatley was traded for Burns in a trade of O for D. All this was worked out during the Burns trade and they had to wait for Heaters NTC trade window to open to complete the deal. Hope that helps
it doesnt help but thaks for trying

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playing hurt and being injured are two differnt things. if you are injured you are out of the line up and doing no good. id rather sign a player that gets hurt and is still able to play over a player whos not tough enough to gut out a sore or is often too hurt to even get on the ice. while heatley may have been hurt and played his presence is still better then putting many other sharks out in his place. sure i get the fact that heatley turns the puck over and its a weakness, personally i can live with some of his turnovers. i think the sharks were able to achieve with him in the lineup and knew how to get success out of the team.

Heatley should've sat for 10-15 games last year, and his play down the stretch and in the playoffs suffered big time beause of it. I get the part where being in the lineup is better than being out of it, because Heater draws attention regardless of whether or not he's 100%, but my point is that I'd be just as concerned about Heatley's health as I would Havlat's because of the laundry list of injuries that the former has had the last couple of years.

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Well in the case of Buffalo, I mean...do you really want to kick a dog when it's down? That town has had some of the worst sports luck I've ever seen haha. The sharks are just the media's favorite punching bag with the choker label.
People quite frankly like to hate on California. And not that we don't have valid issues, but I'm almost starting to feel like that plays into it too.

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People quite frankly like to hate on California. And not that we don't have valid issues, but I'm almost starting to feel like that plays into it too.
People can hate on LA all they want, I sure do. Bay Area for life though.

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