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08-14-2011, 02:41 PM
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I don't understand. Why doesn't the NHL just do this? If somebody "head-shots" somebody else, either INTENTIONALLY or ACCIDENTALLY, then the guy who delivers the blow has to sit out (unpaid) until the guy who's concussed returns. I guarantee you, the concussions would become all but extinct in our sport.
That's actually a great idea, there would be no more Matt Cooke which the NHL would rejoice about.

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seems stupid. You are skating in the middle of the ice, looking to your left, another player is skating right next to you on your right, the puck gets passed behind you from left to right, so you turn blindly and sharply to the right, it turns out Savard is skating there, you accidentally clash, he gets a concussion and retires. Now what?

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08-14-2011, 03:58 PM
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As much as I hate the guy, I really hope he doesn't turn into the next Lindros.
He's already accomplished more.

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seems stupid. You are skating in the middle of the ice, looking to your left, another player is skating right next to you on your right, the puck gets passed behind you from left to right, so you turn blindly and sharply to the right, it turns out Savard is skating there, you accidentally clash, he gets a concussion and retires. Now what?

There's always Europe or the KHL!


But seriously, everybody needs to be more careful. An NHL WITH Crosby makes more $$$ than an NHL WITHOUT Crosby. Everyone's paycheck depends upon everyone being careful.

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He's already accomplished more.
I know everybody loves ragging on Lindros but the two have had very similar careers to this point. I'll give Crosby the slight edge thanks to the Cup but if Pittsburgh was playing those '97 Wings, I don't think Sidney has a Cup either.

Statistically, it couldn't be any closer. Roughly comparing the same amount of games, their statlines are as follows:

SC 412GP 215G 357A 572PTS 1.39PPG
EL 431GP 263G 337A 600PTS 1.39PPG

Eric did it at the height of the dead puck era while bringing other intangibles that Sidney doesn't possess. They had the same amount of Hart & Lester's while Crosby has 1 Art Ross that Lindros lost out on by scoring fewer goals than Jagr.

Not trying to diminish Sid but Eric was that damn good. A lot of people - unfortunately - forget because they think he's a dick (which he isn't) and the end of his career really sucked.

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Kaunisto is hilarious on twitter. Last week when he told Richards he'd let him have the honor of centering him and Kozun at camp I was dying.

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I wonder if Richards even knows who Kaunisto is

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I doubt it, probably why he never replies lol

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98% of Kings fans don't know who he is. Doubt Richards has been given a depth chart to study the Kings AHL depth....yet

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08-14-2011, 10:17 PM
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98% of Kings fans don't know who he is. Doubt Richards has been given a depth chart to study the Kings AHL depth....yet
He might have googled him.

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08-14-2011, 10:29 PM
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I don't understand. Why doesn't the NHL just do this? If somebody "head-shots" somebody else, either INTENTIONALLY or ACCIDENTALLY, then the guy who delivers the blow has to sit out (unpaid) until the guy who's concussed returns. I guarantee you, the concussions would become all but extinct in our sport.
My thought is that if the NHL lifted the 3rd man in game misconduct then guys who take these cheap shots would be dealt with like they were in the past.

Beat them to a pulp, seriously.

Cheap shot a-holes like Cooke would definitely stop.

Maybe there is some trigger for multiple 3rd man in penalties in a single game, but waiting for the league to take some retribution on a cheap hit just doesn't work IMO.

The players can govern themselves but we have to get past the PC of it all.

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08-14-2011, 10:57 PM
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As far as Crosby, I hope he's okay. This is the only report I've seen of it, so I hope it's wrong. Last I heard he was doing his normal off season workout. The Pens are my second favorite team and I'm a huge Crosby fan. Even for some of you who dislike him, you can't deny it would be terrible for the sport if he's not okay. He's amazing.

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08-14-2011, 11:07 PM
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Kaunisto is hilarious on twitter. Last week when he told Richards he'd let him have the honor of centering him and Kozun at camp I was dying.
totally agree one of the best hockey twiters i've seen ( i will admit im still really new to twitter so i don't know many minor league twitter hockey players)

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08-15-2011, 01:16 AM
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He might have googled him.
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08-15-2011, 02:08 PM
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So what happens with Loktionov now? His skill set begs top six minutes, but our top two centers are locked up for a long time. Can Loktionov ever play third line center? Will he be made into a winger? The only spots I see opening in top six in the near future are Gagne's and Penner's spots on the left side (although I hope they both perform well and resign them). Where does that put Loktionov, short term and long term?

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08-15-2011, 02:14 PM
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So what happens with Loktionov now? His skill set begs top six minutes, but our top two centers are locked up for a long time. Can Loktionov ever play third line center? Will he be made into a winger? The only spots I see opening in top six in the near future are Gagne's and Penner's spots on the left side (although I hope they both perform well and resign them). Where does that put Loktionov, short term and long term?
After watching his play last season I have to say that I believe he is most effective in the middle of the ice creating space with his speed and quickness.

I see him as the third line center in 12-13 if he is up to the task. Stoll can be moved to RW if the Kings re-sign him.

Clifford - Loktionov - Stoll

Not too shabby.

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08-15-2011, 02:18 PM
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Kopi-Lokti-Williams

If Lokti isn't moved to LW, I'd prefer that. That's **** in my pants good.

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Kopi-Lokti-Williams

If Lokti isn't moved to LW, I'd prefer that. That's **** in my pants good.
I thought that combination was pretty good when it was briefly tried last season. I think like half a game, maybe.

I would say at this moment in time Penner leaving at the end of the season has a higher probability of happening than Stoll leaving. A lot of people will freak out though because some think Kopitar is in the top ten centers in the NHL.

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08-15-2011, 02:28 PM
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Kopi-Lokti-Williams

If Lokti isn't moved to LW, I'd prefer that. That's **** in my pants good.
Kopitar is much better defensively than Loktionov. We saw how much the Kings missed Kopitar's defense down low in the zone in the playoffs.

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08-15-2011, 02:32 PM
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Kopitar is much better defensively than Loktionov. We saw how much the Kings missed Kopitar's defense down low in the zone in the playoffs.
Lokti is great defensively too and Lokti is obviously better at center. We haven't seen Kopi at the wing. It would be nice to see. And its not like Kopi can't help down low when we need him.

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08-15-2011, 02:35 PM
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Lokti is great defensively too and Lokti is obviously better at center. We haven't seen Kopi at the wing. It would be nice to see. And its not like Kopi can't help down low when we need him.
I agree. It isn't written in stone that the LW has to cover the right point in the defensive zone. Kopitar could be the man down low in his own zone.

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I agree. It isn't written in stone that the LW has to cover the right point in the defensive zone. Kopitar could be the man down low in his own zone.
While he could, I always like to compare Lokti to Datsyuk. No, I'm not saying he is him but he is very comparable. Both are small Russian centers who see the ice incredibly well, have good hands (Datsyuks are far better though but not like Lokti has stone hands), both are playmakers moreso than goal scorers, and both are good defensively, with Datsyuk also having the edge here. I love Lokti but he needs to be used the right way and not be jerked around playing 3rd-4th line minutes/roles.

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After watching his play last season I have to say that I believe he is most effective in the middle of the ice creating space with his speed and quickness.

I see him as the third line center in 12-13 if he is up to the task. Stoll can be moved to RW if the Kings re-sign him.

Clifford - Loktionov - Stoll

Not too shabby.
Stoll's most effective at center where he can use his faceoff talents. Are you advocating having a winger take that line's faceoffs?

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Stoll's most effective at center where he can use his faceoff talents. Are you advocating having a winger take that line's faceoffs?
Yep, just like he does on the PP before he moves back to the point. Shouldn't be a problem.

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While he could, I always like to compare Lokti to Datsyuk. No, I'm not saying he is him but he is very comparable. Both are small Russian centers who see the ice incredibly well, have good hands (Datsyuks are far better though but not like Lokti has stone hands), both are playmakers moreso than goal scorers, and both are good defensively, with Datsyuk also having the edge here. I love Lokti but he needs to be used the right way and not be jerked around playing 3rd-4th line minutes/roles.
If Loktionov can ever develop the upper body strength that Datsyuk has maybe, but he isn't there yet.

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