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08-15-2011, 11:56 AM
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we'll i'm convinced: 16 - 0.

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Well lpoking at your schedule the skins do get to play car, sf, and buff. Plus ari travels to dc. So you have four solid games there. Maybe they'll win 1 or 2 div games. And perhaps pull an upset or two. So I can see best case as 8. But if I got to wager.... 4
...looking...at....schedules....in...preseason....

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There are plenty of certainties at this time of year.

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I'm too lazy to check what he had the skins at in preseason the last two years but I'm guessing 9-7.

Edit: I lied. I checked. Last year he said he'd be "shocked if they don't win at least 7" and that they'd be competing for the wild card.


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There are plenty of certainties at this time of year.
Let's just see how much progress they make as opposed to ******** on the current regime for past regime's mistakes and overlooking the numerous cultural shifts they've made to the organization.

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I'm too lazy to check what he had the skins at in preseason the last two years but I'm guessing 9-7.

Edit: I lied. I checked. Last year he said he'd be "shocked if they don't win at least 7" and that they'd be competing for the wild card.
lol....amusing...


Skins - Glass half full

Caps - Glass running on empty

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lol....amusing...


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Its beyond comprehension at this point. I surely don't get it.

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Its beyond comprehension at this point. I surely don't get it.
In Shanahan He Trusts.

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I can see how some are a little over-excited about 1 pre-season game and having Shanahan as a head coach. We've all been spoiled by another professional sports franchise that calls DC its home that probably found success a year early during a significant rebuild.

Me personally, I've been burned to many times in the past to get all that excited at this point. For me it all started back in Shottenheimer's one year here. I don't remember who the Skins were playing, but its the one when Lavar Arington ran an INT or fumble recovery back for a TD. That was early in Marty's rebound from an 0-5 start, it was all down hill for me there. The team started playing better, and I was looking forward to the future with Shottenheimer as the coach. Then came Spurrier. Only one name needs to be said, Osaka!

After that first year under Spurrier I promised myself I would never again get all caught up until the team is rebuilt the right way. I hoped Gibbs would do that, then he blabbed in the press that he put more stock in FA's, proven players. Then he made the infamous Portis trade, and I knew this wasn't going to be the Gibbs I grew up with.

Now we have Shanahan and I haven't even sniffed the kool-aid, let alone drunk it. McNabb aside, Shanallenhan is making solid rebuilding moves, but whatever happens with Beck will tell me if this will work out.

-Beck plays better than Grossman ever could and I'm sold.
-Beck plays ok, but makes solid progress as the year goes on and I'm sold.
-Beck plays like ****, is rightfully benched for Grossman, I am not sold yet, but thats another good sign.
-Beck plays like **** and Shanahan plays another game with the QB position in the press, I've lost faith.

So for me, the next 2 months will go a long way in showing me true progress is being made. I want to believe, but a lot of questions still need answers.

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08-15-2011, 08:19 PM
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In Shanahan He Trusts.
I'm giving Shanahan (a man with 3 Championship rings) more than 1 year with a depleted, old team before I judge him. He's just started to rebuild with the tools given. His only mistake to this point has been giving a HOF QB a shot at running his offense and to his credit he pulled the plug rather than save face.

Boudreau inherited a ready-made team of elite talent playing the wrong system, told them to "go score" and has failed in humiliating fashion 3 years running when it matters.

**** isn't rocket science.

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08-15-2011, 09:49 PM
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I dont think there's any doubt that the skins are finally on the right path. Just need to suck for luck!

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I dont think there's any doubt that the skins are finally on the right path. Just need to suck for luck!
Are you kidding me? I am a lifelong Skins fan, who had season tickets my entire childhood, and I have numerous, numerous doubts.

I don't get how trading down for late round draft picks (one year) which they then spent on the positions they needed least has all of sudden created all this faith.

Incidentally, my father, a seven decade Skins fan, believes the team will suck the entire time Snyder owns the team.

So yes, there are quite a few doubts.

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Are you kidding me? I am a lifelong Skins fan, who had season tickets my entire childhood, and I have numerous, numerous doubts.

I don't get how trading down for late round draft picks (one year) which they then spent on the positions they needed least has all of sudden created all this faith.

Incidentally, my father, a seven decade Skins fan, believes the team will suck the entire time Snyder owns the team.

So yes, there are quite a few doubts.
in the Skins defense (which i wont say often) - they need help at ALL positions.

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08-16-2011, 08:23 AM
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I don't get how trading down for late round draft picks (one year) which they then spent on the positions they needed least has all of sudden created all this faith.
They needed an OLB opposite Orakpo, they needed DL depth, and they needed fresh faces at the RB and WR positions. This team had a lot of holes heading into the draft.

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TheY got rid of cerrato and hired shanahan....

Step one in right direction. It's the ? On the way to profit that matters.

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TheY got rid of cerrato and hired shanahan....

Step one in right direction. It's the ? On the way to profit that matters.
Step one in answering that question is Friday night when Beck takes the field. He better not stink up the joint, because if he does the media around these parts will be falling all over themselves to trash the Shanahan Clan.

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Beck sucks. Grossman sucks. You don't win with garbage qbs unless he's careful and you have a dominant dominant dominant running game and defense.

Just get that oline solidified... suck for luck. Put him into that job day one. Protect him. Let Hightower carry the mail. Get proper 3-4 D players filled in up front and in ILB.

Have to draft well in 2012/13 and then maybe compete in 2013. Draft a few rbs in mid rounds til you find one to pair with hightower. (or sign a young UFA Rb before 2013)

Or basically just look at what Atlanta did.

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Beck sucks. Grossman sucks. You don't win with garbage qbs unless he's careful and you have a dominant dominant dominant running game and defense.

Just get that oline solidified... suck for luck. Put him into that job day one. Protect him. Let Hightower carry the mail. Get proper 3-4 D players filled in up front and in ILB.

Have to draft well in 2012/13 and then maybe compete in 2013. Draft a few rbs in mid rounds til you find one to pair with hightower. (or sign a young UFA Rb before 2013)

Or basically just look at what Atlanta did.
Probably. But let it play out. Grossman has actually performed well in this system and Beck is an unknown.

Christ it's tiring hearing everyone just dismiss them before they fail.

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Probably. But let it play out. Grossman has actually performed well in this system and Beck is an unknown.

Christ it's tiring hearing everyone just dismiss them before they fail.
I laughed so hard I peed a little when I read that.


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They needed an OLB opposite Orakpo, they needed DL depth, and they needed fresh faces at the RB and WR positions. This team had a lot of holes heading into the draft.
They pretty much could have drafted any position at random. Chances were good they'd be addressing a need.

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I laughed so hard I peed a little when I read that.
The Caps under Boudreau deserve extreme skepticism after Pitt/Montreal/Tampa; the Skins under Shanahan are a completely different animal.

The fact that fans are so befuddled by this concept is just a tell of ignorance.

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They pretty much could have drafted any position at random. Chances were good they'd be addressing a need.
Yes they had a lot of holes to fill, that was just my way of saying who they drafted was justified.

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I strongly believe this team is not a 4 win team. They are at least a 6 win team.

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I strongly believe this team is not a 4 win team. They are at least a 6 win team.
That's basically how I feel.

I'd outright predict 7, 8 or 9 but they're in a fragile stage of the rebuild.


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I'm sticking with my expectation of 5, 6 if an extra game bounces their way.

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