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08-17-2011, 10:33 AM
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Yet more roasting.






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As I posted on Facebook, this officially makes Ohio State look like Girl Scouts. If there's a perfect example for the "death penalty" to be brought back, this is it.

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I don't know how he comes up with these perfect analogies.

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In one instance, Shapiro described taking a player to the Pink Pony strip club and paying for a dancer to engage in sex with the athlete. In the ensuing weeks, Shapiro said the dancer called one of his security providers and informed him that the player had gotten her pregnant during the incident. Shapiro said he gave the dancer $500 to have an abortion performed, without notifying the player of the incident.

"I was doing him a favor," the booster said. "That idiot might have wanted to keep [the baby]."

Due to the sensitivity of the allegation, Yahoo! Sports has chosen not to name the player allegedly involved.
Sad thing is, he's probably not wrong.

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08-17-2011, 12:45 PM
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Finally finished reading the probe and I'm flabbergasted. Two things jump out at me:

1) Oh boy is Miami screwed

2) Nevin Shapiro, while a degenerate low-life of the highest order, lived a baller lifestyle that all of us dream of living. Just without the prison. If he wasn't a slimy crook he'd almost be a hero of mine.

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Seriously its just keeps getting more embarrassing for the NCAA and the schools.

I agree tuition and such is considered the pay for the athletes, but that's another discussion.(I have a solution to this as well though just let them use name and likeness in the Video Game)

And I can see the bribery and recruiting violations being a problem but once they're on campus who gives a **** if some guy gets them a tattoo, car, or hooker. Same goes for if the wanna sell things they own(see AJ Green/Ohio St. players). And Dez Bryant got suspended for lying about going to Deion Sanders house. WTF is that.


I love college football but it seems like its something new every month with the NCAA in terms of violations. Not to mention the fact we got teams jumping conferences like no bodies business.

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08-17-2011, 12:52 PM
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Additionally, nobody may get burned worse by this than Donna Shalala. This article by Dan Wetzel makes it look pretty bad for her, and is generally a great read:

http://sports.yahoo.com/investigatio...trouble_081611

Edit: oops, someone already posted this earlier in the thread. Oh well - all the more reason to read it.


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Ohio State didn't "cheat" to gain an advantage on the field. It was more of just dumbass nonsense by a few players who had their heads up their ass.
OSU covered up rules breaking by its players. OSU knew that those players would be suspended if the NCAA found out. So yes, OSU broke the rules to keep its best players on the field. Having players on the field who should have been suspended was an advantage.

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As I posted on Facebook, this officially makes Ohio State look like Girl Scouts. If there's a perfect example for the "death penalty" to be brought back, this is it.
The death penalty is the NCAA's equivalent of the boogeyman. It looms as the ultimate threat, yet I highly doubt it will ever be enacted again. Far too much money stands to be lost by going nuclear winter on the U.


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I don't know how he comes up with these perfect analogies.
this one kind of wrote itself.

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NCAA killed SMU for less then this and with less history of flagarant disregard

If Miami doesn't get same treatment the NCAA will be a joke

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SMU was already on probation at the time, were they not? I think that was the main trigger for the death penalty being applied. Some from the NCAA have expressed regret over killing SMU football and I'm not sure they'll want to do it again. Of course, if they can prove that Shalala et al. knew what Shapiro says they knew, the NCAA may not have much of a choice.

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Based on my vague memory of watching Pony Express on ESPN, yes, they were on probation already.

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Though I'm wondering if the NCAA could simply declare all of Shapiro's payouts as separate violations, thus giving them much more than 2 "major violations" within a 5 year span? Or do previous violations already have to be settled and on the record for the "repeat violation" trigger to kick in? I am not a legal expert.

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I so hope they go death penalty.

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Though I'm wondering if the NCAA could simply declare all of Shapiro's payouts as separate violations, thus giving them much more than 2 "major violations" within a 5 year span? Or do previous violations already have to be settled and on the record for the "repeat violation" trigger to kick in? I am not a legal expert.
My understanding is that repeat violations isn't the only pre-condition for the death penalty to be considered.

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Where the heck did you find that?


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SMU was living a lie, that program was never gunna be a top dog, with or without that imposed death penalty.

Miami has been on the downfall for years basically. We are talking a once elite football institution that basically screwed itself up on it's own years back and now they are in major trouble. It's not like they are a big deal in NCAA Football anymore that theyu would be that missed.

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Sad thing is, he's probably not wrong.
What is funny about that?

That is ###### up to be honest

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SMU was living a lie, that program was never gunna be a top dog, with or without that imposed death penalty.
Well, they kinda were in 1981 and 1982

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We've reached the point where college football is about as clean as the Afghani police force.

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After talking to NCAA officials today and some compliance folks, there seems to be little talk of bringing back death penalties or TV bans.

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Well, they kinda were in 1981 and 1982
But they um kinda cheated to achieve that...which is my point.

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I feel most sorry for Al Golden......he was totally blindsided by this & I fear we are going to lose him should the penalties be as bad as I fear.

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If the NCAA wants to put a stop to all of this crap, shut the program down for at least 5 years.

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