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Rangers 3rd line RW

View Poll Results: 3rd line RW
Brian Boyle 9 10.98%
Mike Rupp 1 1.22%
Sean Avery 5 6.10%
Carl Hagelin 3 3.66%
Brandon Prust 4 4.88%
Mats Zucarello 49 59.76%
Christian Thomas 8 9.76%
Erik Christensen 2 2.44%
Kris Newbury 0 0%
Dale Weise 1 1.22%
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08-17-2011, 09:16 AM
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I believe Avery will be on this team.

Last year on his contract, he can still contribute.
But is he worth wasting 1.9 million in cap space? I'm not sure.

With players like Hagelin, Weise, Kolarik, etc. down in Hartford, is there a need for (2) extra forwards?

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08-17-2011, 09:41 AM
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But is he worth wasting 1.9 million in cap space? I'm not sure.

With players like Hagelin, Weise, Kolarik, etc. down in Hartford, is there a need for (2) extra forwards?
Its not necessarily what I want.

But its what I believe will happen.

We are only paying half of Avery's contract. What happens if he gets waived? What are the rules if we were to bring him back up at any point? Would Dallas be off the hook for their half?

I think its smart to keep him on the roster in case of injuries. And im sure Torts will get him ice time regardless.

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Its not necessarily what I want.

But its what I believe will happen.

We are only paying half of Avery's contract. What happens if he gets waived? What are the rules if we were to bring him back up at any point? Would Dallas be off the hook for their half?

I think its smart to keep him on the roster in case of injuries. And im sure Torts will get him ice time regardless.
The problem with Avery is that nobody wants him in a trade and that if we waive him, we are offically deemed responsible to pay his entire caphit. Dallas would be off the hook with their half of his paycheck.

Im all for letting him walk at the end of this season but this year lets see what he can do and if he can stick.. If avery can play on that edge a bit more, cause problems on the ice, and put some pts up, he could be a useful 3rd/4th line sub for someone.

I cant believe i forgot this kids name but maybe he should be in there depending upon if he gets a chance in camp.. Where's the love for JAM?!?

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08-17-2011, 09:59 AM
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This board is obsessed with the Dubinsky/Anisimov/Callahan line.

Rightfully so as they had loads of chemistry.

But iirc most of their production came early part of the season.

I don't see that line being put together initially. Currently, Dubinsky is the best fit for that first line.

My lines:

Brandon-Brad-Marion
Wojtek-Derek-Ryan
Ruslan-Artem-Christian (crosses fingers) but probably Mats.
Mike-Brian-Brandon

Honestly rather see a kid like Hagelin instead of Fedotanko. But oh well.

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Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik
Wolski-Anisimov-Callahan
Boyle-Stepan-Zuccarello
Fedotenko-Rupp-Prust

Christensen and/or Avery

Gives us easily the most balanced attack throughout the lineup AND IMO the best top 6 we could have. If Wolski falters, I think Boyle would do really well on Anisimov and Callahan's LW, and you can just plug Avery or Christensen into the bottom 6 and take Wolski out of the lineup.


To me, you absolutely run lines that are balanced and see if they click before you go and put Dubi-Anisimov-Callahan together, essentially taking all three of your hustle guys that are capable of scoring 20+ goals and 50-65 points, and putting them all on one line, as well as making the top line one of the softest in the league with Wolski on it.

It just seems like a no-brainer. And then you can always put Dubi-Anisimov-Cally together if these don't work. People act like if that line doesn't start the season together then they're going to magically lose all chemistry together, and that's just not true. I've played hockey before and still play from time to time, and if you feel comfortable with the way guys play and you know them, it's like riding a bicycle. Production can come and go but it's usually not for a lack of chemistry.

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But is he worth wasting 1.9 million in cap space? I'm not sure.

With players like Hagelin, Weise, Kolarik, etc. down in Hartford, is there a need for (2) extra forwards?
I'd rather plug Avery into the lineup than those guys, at least rather than Weise and Kolarik. But I get what you're saying, and cap space may be very valuable to us if we're doing well at the trade deadline

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08-17-2011, 11:32 AM
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you mixed up the wingers, here. Feds plays LW and Thomas plays RW
Yeah, although Feds is capable of playing RW at diminished effectiveness. But to do that in this particular line scenario wouldn't make sense.

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08-17-2011, 11:35 AM
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Ideally I'd love for Thomas to come into camp and impress like no other has in the past and get the 1st line job bumping wolski back to the 3rd line. I'd also like to have Hagelin on that line. But I know that's just a pipe dream. I really like Hagelin and Thomas.

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Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik
Wolski-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Stepan-MZA
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust

When Avery or Wolski slump, put in Rupp. Rupp, Fedotenko, and Boyle all see time as LWs on the 2nd or 3rd line. Give both Anisimov and Stepan shot at 2nd line duties with Callahan. EC is a goner. Hagelin gets call ups in case of injury. Thomas goes back to OHL.

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Dubinsky-Richards-Gaborik
Wolski-Anisimov-Callahan
Avery-Stepan-MZA
Fedotenko-Boyle-Prust

When Avery or Wolski slump, put in Rupp. Rupp, Fedotenko, and Boyle all see time as LWs on the 2nd or 3rd line. Give both Anisimov and Stepan shot at 2nd line duties with Callahan. EC is a goner. Hagelin gets call ups in case of injury. Thomas goes back to OHL.
Rupp is not coming in to be a spare , he's a perfect gritty 4th liner

It's either Avery or Zuccarello for a roster spot. I don't see Avery going anywhere either so I just dont think Zuke makes the team and Boyle is in this RW spot instead

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I'd just be very surprised to see Avery make the starting lineup over Rupp, but I suppose its possible.

Thomas is a RW. There is a RW spot to be won. The kid should know its in his own hands how he performs, he can force the Rangers to keep him if he shows he'll be a goal scorer at this level.

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I'd just be very surprised to see Avery make the starting lineup over Rupp, but I suppose its possible.

Thomas is a RW. There is a RW spot to be won. The kid should know its in his own hands how he performs, he can force the Rangers to keep him if he shows he'll be a goal scorer at this level.
I really think Thomas is going to make it hard for the coaching staff to send him home.

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08-17-2011, 11:48 AM
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Ideally I'd love for Thomas to come into camp and impress like no other has in the past and get the 1st line job bumping wolski back to the 3rd line. I'd also like to have Hagelin on that line. But I know that's just a pipe dream. I really like Hagelin and Thomas.
I really like Thomas' chances of making the team, and also Hagelin could make the team as well. But both wont make it this year, unless Avery is waived and someone gets injured, which is bound to happen.

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I'd just be very surprised to see Avery make the starting lineup over Rupp, but I suppose its possible.

Thomas is a RW. There is a RW spot to be won. The kid should know its in his own hands how he performs, he can force the Rangers to keep him if he shows he'll be a goal scorer at this level.
Looks to be a more talented Zuccarello. Although CT is a bit bigger.


I think Thomas makes the team. jmo

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I hope Thomas makes it I think he has the tools to hold his own in the NHL right now and then progress from there.

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Thomas needs to get stronger. I don't think they rush him into the NHL. However, Hagelin has a legitimate shot at making the team out of camp. With his speed and defensive ability it will be easy for Torts to give him minutes and allow for him to grow at the NHL level.

With Thomas, if he isn't scoring, he won't be getting very many minutes.

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Thomas' shot alone should give him a bit of an edge on Zuccarello.

I want Thomas on Stepan's LW. Two righties. Playmaking center. Shooting LW. Same concept as Richards-Gaborik. Lefty playmaking center. Lefty shooting RW.

Thomas scores a lot of his goals on the left side.

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Thomas' shot alone should give him a bit of an edge on Zuccarello.

I want Thomas on Stepan's LW. Two righties. Playmaking center. Shooting LW. Same concept as Richards-Gaborik. Lefty playmaking center. Lefty shooting RW.

Thomas scores a lot of his goals on the left side.
You sure thats what you want?

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I'd love to see CT in this spot. However I think it's Aves orZucc. I don't care how many odd goals Boyle scored last year he is a 4th liner at best. If MZA has a good camp it's his job. If not, Sean steps in. Some nights Feds will sit and they'll both play.

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Thomas' shot alone should give him a bit of an edge on Zuccarello.

I want Thomas on Stepan's LW. Two righties. Playmaking center. Shooting LW. Same concept as Richards-Gaborik. Lefty playmaking center. Lefty shooting RW.

Thomas scores a lot of his goals on the left side.
With Richards here and CT one timer on the pp, the "the PP sucks. fire Torts fire Sullivan" threads should end.

In all seriousness, if CT was to make the team, him playing on the PP would give him a chance to excel.
He probably wouldn't be on the first unit but definitely the second.
Could have the chance for 2 really good units.

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they are not going to rush Thomas, he'll go back to the OHL

If Zuke makes the team Avery has to go. I dont think its going to happen.

If Avery does get waived and picked up on waivers would he have his whole cap hit taken off? 2 million or the 4?

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Maybe zucc starts in the AHL but once the Wolski experiment fails, Dubi,Feds, or boyle will take the first line spot and zucc can play 3rd line wing

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