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08-15-2011, 02:01 PM
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To start the season I'd like to see this:

Cammy-Plekanec-AK
Cole-Gomez-Gionta
MaxPac-Eller-DD

Or

Cammy-Plek-Cole
MaxPac-Gomez-Gionta
DD-Eller-AK


But knowing Martin, he will probably put DD on the 4th line and put Moen or Darche on the 3rd line.

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08-15-2011, 04:46 PM
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Sign Winchester and then we're done

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Erik Cole ($4.500m)
Max Pacioretty ($1.625m) / Scott Gomez ($7.357m) / Brian Gionta ($5.000m)
Andrei Kostitsyn ($3.250m) / Lars Eller ($1.270m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m)
Brad Winchester ($0.700m) / Ryan White ($0.625m) / Travis Moen ($1.500m)
Mathieu Darche ($0.700m)

DEFENSEMEN
Andrei Markov ($5.750m) / Josh Gorges ($2.500m)
Hal Gill ($2.250m) / P.K. Subban ($0.875m)
Alexei Yemelin ($0.984m) / Jaroslav Spacek ($3.833m)
Yannick Weber ($0.850m) / Jeff Woywitka ($0.650m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($2.750m) / Peter Budaj ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS: Georges Laraque ($0.500m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,470,509; BONUSES: $400,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $3,829,491

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08-15-2011, 06:11 PM
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Sign Winchester and then we're done
Concur. Well, Winchester or a defensive center like Madden or Ryan Johnson. Either is ok with me. I wouldn't wait on camp invites.

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08-15-2011, 07:32 PM
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Concur. Well, Winchester or a defensive center like Madden or Ryan Johnson. Either is ok with me. I wouldn't wait on camp invites.
I wouldn't have a problem with that, but I do kinda salivate much more over a potential Winchester-White-Moen 4th line. Big guys making hits and playing intense.

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08-15-2011, 10:25 PM
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Habs 2011-2012 Roster

Who do you see on the 4 lines? And the 6/7 defenceman for next year? Any rookies making the team?

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08-15-2011, 10:33 PM
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Centers
Pleks
Eller
Gomez
Engvist
*White

Wingers
Cammy
Cole
Patches
Gio
AK - Personally I think he will be traded, but I have no idea for who (hopefully Boedker!)
Desharnais
Moen
Darche
Blunden

Defense
Markov
Subban
Gorges
Gill
Emelin
Spacek
Weber
Mitera/Nash

Goalies
Price
Budaj

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08-15-2011, 10:53 PM
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Centers
Pleks
Eller
Gomez
Engvist
*White

Wingers
Cammy
Cole
Patches
Gio
AK - Personally I think he will be traded, but I have no idea for who (hopefully Boedker!)
Desharnais
Moen
Darche
Blunden

Defense
Markov
Subban
Gorges
Gill
Emelin
Spacek
Weber
Mitera/Nash

Goalies
Price
Budaj
Thats sexy.

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08-15-2011, 11:17 PM
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Thats sexy.
I have a good feeling about Engqvist. He is big, smart, wins faceoffs, kills penalties effectively and skates very well for his size. Prototypical center for a 4th line that could be relied upon in key defensive situations. My lines would be the following:

Pacioretty-Pleks-Cammalleri
Cole-Gomez/Eller-Gionta
Kostitsyn-Gomez/Eller-Desharnais
Darche-Engqvist-Moen
(white)

Markov-Subban
Gorges-Gill
Spacek-Weber/Yemelin

PP1
Cole-Cammaleri-Plex
Markov-Yemelin/Subban

PP2
Pacioretty-Gomez-Gionta
Subban/Yemelin-Weber

Pk1
Pleks-Moen
Gill-Gorges

PK2
Engqvist-Gionta
Markov-Subban

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08-16-2011, 08:17 AM
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Plus realistically Gomez can possibly come off the books. If he has a decent season then the fact that his cap hit is higher than his salary after this coming season can make him worth millions in cash in the pocket of some owner who's only scraping the ceiling floor. If he continues to decline, he may have to go the Wade Reddon route. Either way, I don't see the Habs facing insurmountable cap problems next year. The Price contract may be a nightmare to do, but that would be true regardless of cap space. Subber's only heading for his second contract. While it would be great to lock him up long term, it's not a necessity yet.
I agree, after this coming year, if we can find a replacement(cheaper) or upgrade on Gomez, he becomes very tradeable, unless he has another 40 point year, which I think is very unlikely. I expect him to bounce back to at least a 60 point pace(over 82 games) and maybe have a big year up to 70 with added focus and hopefully having healthy Gio and Pacioretty on his wings. Having more depth on the wings than we did to start last year(add a much improved Pacioretty plus Cole) should help Gomez avoid that type of year.

Plus, as was mentionned already, we have AK Moen Spacek Gill potetially coming off the books if we need that space. Not that they are garbage but a lot of them could be replaced by younger talent in 12 months time with weber Diaz Yemelin Palushaj Conboy White Weber either in the NHL or knocking on the door.

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08-17-2011, 05:32 AM
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Now that our defense looks good, we need a third line left winger to play with Eller and Kostitsyn and keep the fourth line for defense, grit and toughness with some speed.

So...

- Trade Spacek with a young prospect (a la Desharnais) for another prospect or young player that we can develop, even a draft pick

- Sign either Moreau or Grier to play on the third line

- Play Blunden as the 13th forward and Weber as the 7th defenseman

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Moreau/Grier - Eller - Kostitsyn
Darche - White - Moen
Blunden

Markov - Gorges
Gill - Subban
Woywitka - Emelin
Weber

Price
Budaj

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08-17-2011, 01:11 PM
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My lines:

CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR

FORWARDS
Erik Cole ($4.500m) / Tomas Plekanec ($5.000m) / Mike Cammalleri ($6.000m)
Brian Gionta ($5.000m) / Scott Gomez ($7.357m) / Max Pacioretty ($1.625m)
Andrei Kostitsyn ($3.250m) / Lars Eller ($1.270m) / David Desharnais ($0.850m)
Travis Moen ($1.500m) / Andreas Engqvist ($0.900m) / Mathieu Darche ($0.700m)
/ / Ryan White ($0.625m)

DEFENSEMEN
P.K. Subban ($0.875m) / Hal Gill ($2.250m)
Andrei Markov ($5.750m) / Josh Gorges ($2.500m)
Jaroslav Spacek ($3.833m) / Alexei Yemelin ($0.984m)
Yannick Weber ($0.850m) / Jeff Woywitka ($0.650m)

GOALTENDERS
Carey Price ($2.750m) / Peter Budaj ($1.150m)

BUYOUTS: Georges Laraque ($0.500m)

CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled using the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $60,670,509; BONUSES: $400,000
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $4,029,491

I feel like we've made most of the aquisitions we need for this roster. Might aswell save the 4m in cap space and be able to spend at the deadline if we need a player.

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08-17-2011, 01:18 PM
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Now that our defense looks good, we need a third line left winger to play with Eller and Kostitsyn and keep the fourth line for defense, grit and toughness with some speed.

So...

- Trade Spacek with a young prospect (a la Desharnais) for another prospect or young player that we can develop, even a draft pick

- Sign either Moreau or Grier to play on the third line

- Play Blunden as the 13th forward and Weber as the 7th defenseman

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Moreau/Grier - Eller - Kostitsyn
Darche - White - Moen
Blunden

Markov - Gorges
Gill - Subban
Woywitka - Emelin
Weber

Price
Budaj
Woywitka as a regular top 6 d-Man ????

Moreau or Grier on our 3rd line ???? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Whre is DD for godsake ?

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08-17-2011, 03:27 PM
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Even though center might be a bigger need, I would just take Winchester and run at this point, he fills a bigger need IMHO. Having a guy like that would give more space to our smaller placer and also the guys that play an in your face style.

Maybe also get Begin or Mair on a 2 way contract and have them compete for a 4th line spot.

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08-17-2011, 03:31 PM
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I hope Gauthier offers a tryout to John Madden, still without a contract and we could use him to replace Halpern

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08-17-2011, 03:57 PM
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I hope Gauthier offers a tryout to John Madden, still without a contract and we could use him to replace Halpern
Good call. He's a good fit with Martin's system.

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08-17-2011, 06:10 PM
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Winchester is what we need

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08-17-2011, 06:55 PM
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I hope Gauthier offers a tryout to John Madden, still without a contract and we could use him to replace Halpern
madden is ok, but he is another left handed shooter... if chris drury is healty he would be a prefect fit, imo.

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08-18-2011, 09:00 AM
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Sign sign Winchester and no one else?

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Kostitsyn - Eller - Desharnais
Winchester - White - Moen
Darche

Markov - Gorges
Gill - Subban
Spacek - Emelin
Woywitka
Weber

Price
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08-18-2011, 11:11 AM
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Woywitka is not ahead of weber ...he might even be behind Diaz in the organization chart

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madden is ok, but he is another left handed shooter... if chris drury is healty he would be a prefect fit, imo.
You mentioned it, health is the scary thing about Drury, I like him a lot but I would be too affraid to sign him. Madden is more durable and has a passed playing on the Devils with Gio and Gomez

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08-18-2011, 11:26 AM
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Winchester is what we need
If we haven't signed Winchester yet (or a guy like him) we won't at this time IMO.

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If we haven't signed Winchester yet (or a guy like him) we won't at this time IMO.
Maybe a tryout but I'm sure other teams will offer him one as well. But I agree with you, if Gauthier didn't do it yet + he signed White to a 1 way, make me believe he is comfortable with White and Moen as our tough guys

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He's NOT on the Nucks roster, as of yet!

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But we all know you're happy about it.... Happy for Vancouver though, a player like Winchester could of made a heck of a difference against Boston.

As for us, well, let's hope that either Conboy, Schultz or Henry impress the **** out of Martin and Cunneyworth has a word on who stays and goes.
just checked this morning......still available as far as I can see?

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Henry?

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08-18-2011, 11:49 AM
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Getting Drury is a high risk high reward kind of deal, why not at $2,000,000.00 maximum for one season?

So...

Cammalleri - Plekanec - Cole
Pacioretty - Gomez - Gionta
Kostitsyn - Eller - Drury
White - Desharnais - Moen
Darche

Markov - Gorges
Gill - Subban
Spacek - Emelin
Woywitka
Weber

Price
Budaj

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