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Chris Kreider or Christian Thomas?

View Poll Results: Who has more POTENTIAL to become the bigger, better offensive force in the NHL?
Chris Kreider 79 68.70%
Christian Thomas 36 31.30%
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08-17-2011, 09:33 PM
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Chris Kreider or Christian Thomas?

I wanted to get a general consensus of the HFBoards Rangers posters about these two offensively talented players.

Question: Who has more POTENTIAL (in your opinion) to become the better offensive player in the NHL?

Chris Kreider or Christian Thomas?

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Seems consensus is Kreider.

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If all we're talking is pure offensive upside? Then I'd go with Thomas.

Better overall player? Kreider.

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Kreider.

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If all we're talking is pure offensive upside? Then I'd go with Thomas.

Better overall player? Kreider.
Yes. Q: More potential to be the better offensive player.

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Yes. Q: More potential to be the better offensive player.
Alright, your use of "bigger" threw me off a bit. Don't think there's much question about who's going to be bigger.

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If both pan out to the top of their ceiling I say Kreider is still the better offensive player.

His entire package is much better than CT's.

The problem is they WON'T pan out to the top of their ceiling.

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I think being introduced into the league on a line with Richards and Gaborik, Kreider will become the better player. Also he has all the tools, some of which Thomas doesn't have quite yet. His size makes him a threat and he has the potential to be Kesler 2.0

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I think being introduced into the league on a line with Richards and Gaborik, Kreider will become the better player. Also he has all the tools, some of which Thomas doesn't have quite yet. His size makes him a threat and he has the potential to be Kesler 2.0
I'll take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday.

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I'll take that every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
3 times on Sunday

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Christian Thomas.

Now your odds on of becoming or reaching peak talent (something akin to Hockeysfuture's A-B-C rating)? Kreiders is far and away superior.

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I think Christian Thomas probably has the better potential as far as just goal scoring but Kreider has the potential to become a more complete offensive player - solid on the cycle, smart passes, chip in goals etc.

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I'll say Thomas just to irk the Kreider lovers.

And because Thomas actually talks like he expects to be a dynamic NHL player.

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Was going to go with Thomas... His offensive instincts on a different level than Kreider's.... Kreider has the physical tools/package though....

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From strictly an offensive perspective then Christian Thomas is clearly the more gifted offensive player.

While Kreider relies more on his speed to crash the net and get dirty goals (with the occasional nice shot) Thomas is absolutely a pure sniper. He has a nasty one timer, and can also snipe wrist shot with great accuracy.

However the reason that Kreider is the better prospect is because he has more tools than Thomas, and is more likely to reach his ceiling.

However if we assumed that both players reached their ceilings then Thomas is the more gifted offensive player while Kreider is the more of an all around talent that is much more aligned with getting the dirty goals around the net.

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Thomas will probably have more points while Kreider will be a more complete all around player.

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People severely underrate Kreider's shot and strength, here.

Not necessarily a sniper, but his shot and power is more than good enough to be one of his strengths as a player.


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People severely underrate Kreider's shot and strength, here.
People underrate Thomas because of his size. He is far more gifted offensively, has speed and a good shot.

Chris Kreider will never be Kesler, maybe he can be a faster Dubinsky.

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People underrate Thomas because of his size. He is far more gifted offensively, has speed and a good shot.

Chris Kreider will never be Kesler, maybe he can be a faster Dubinsky.
NOBODY underrates Thomas here. His size IS a big issue, though.

He's incredibly offensively gifted, but Kreider has shown (internationally, at least) he's also very talented offensively.

Kreider is gifted offensively, has elite NHL speed and a good shot. The chances of him becoming Kesler are probably greater than CT becoming a 70+ point player, and I love CT.

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Thomas, obviously. Kreider will be in college til he's on Geritol.

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NOBODY underrates Thomas here. His size IS a big issue, though.

He's incredibly offensively gifted, but Kreider has shown (internationally, at least) he's also very talented offensively.

Kreider is gifted offensively, has elite NHL speed and a good shot. The chances of him becoming Kesler are probably greater than CT becoming a 70+ point player, and I love CT.
Thomas scored 50 OHL goals. He scored higher rate than 1st rounder Joey Hishon, Austin Watson along with Jared Knight, John Mcfarland. If Thomas and McIlirath swapped draft positions, he'd get more respect.

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I don't wanna hear about size. Yeah, it helps, but I could probably throw Martin St.Louis across the room with one arm and he's one of the best players in the world. Size isn't the end all, be all.

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Thomas scored 50 OHL goals. He scored higher rate than 1st rounder Joey Hishon, Austin Watson along with Jared Knight, John Mcfarland. If Thomas and McIlirath swapped draft positions, he'd get more respect.
But there's a reason Kreider was a first rounder and Thomas wasn't, isn't there?

I'll give you three guesses on what made Thomas drop and the first two don't count.

Listen, i'm high on both of them and expect that they'll both make the NHL some day, but to completely discount the size difference between the two is ludicrous. You know who didn't become MSL?



Size is a serious issue CT is going to need to overcome to become a good NHL player.

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And are people really going to discount the size argument for CT and then use it again for MZA? MZA dominated the SEL, if size isn't the end all be all he should be getting a LOT more respect around here.

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But there's a reason Kreider was a first rounder and Thomas wasn't, isn't there?

I'll give you three guesses on what made Thomas drop and the first two don't count.

Listen, i'm high on both of them and expect that they'll both make the NHL some day, but to completely discount the size difference between the two is ludicrous. You know who didn't become MSL?



Size is a serious issue CT is going to need to overcome to become a good NHL player.
^yes, you beat me to it. I will say that CT's one timer reminds me of Brett Hull and Brendan Shanahan. If Kreider has elite speed, Thomas has an elite one-timer. If he's playing a lot of PP, he'll probably get his share of goals, otherwise defenders will learn how to cover him. It'll be up to his other skills to get open and in position. Those are skills of his I am less familiar with. Kreider has a more well rounded set of very good skills. I'm not certain, but Thomas strikes me to have a similar set of very good skills but there are some aspects of his game that seem average. I'm doubting the physical part of his game is that strong. Kreider has him beat there in spades. It's a really hard thing to compare these two, but if you were to grade each of their attributes/skills like in an NHL video game, I think Kreider would come out with the higher overall score. Potential for improvement? I have no clue how to measure that.

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