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08-17-2011, 06:57 AM
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http://fr.canoe.ca/sports/nouvelles/...17-054404.html

Peca confirms he'll join Quinnipiac on Friday and won't go back on his decision. He says he doesn't understand why Kitchener won't release him.

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He says he doesn't understand why Kitchener won't release him.
Really?????????....because it would cause total chaos to the system.
What's to stop the Remparts owners of making offers to any player across the CHL and tell them their rights holders will release them.

Kitchener isn't the villain here, the Remparts tried to circumvent the systems and got denied!

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Really?????????....because it would cause total chaos to the system.
What's to stop the Remparts owners of making offers to any player across the CHL and tell them their rights holders will release them.

Kitchener isn't the villain here, the Remparts tried to circumvent the systems and got denied!
I guess he's admitting he can't cut it in the OHL. But this is ridiculous, not just as a Rangers fan, but for the other OHL teams that had his rights at some point as well. Would have loved to see what would have happened if Crosby decided he wanted to play in the OHL instead of Quebec. There would have been some grand debate over Quebec vs English speaking Canada.

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Peca confirms he'll join Quinnipiac on Friday and won't go back on his decision. He says he doesn't understand why Kitchener won't release him.
He'd be better off in Kitchener anyway.

Yeah, there's no way Quebec should be able to circumvent the system. If Peca wants to play in the CHL, he come play in the same market that was good enough for Derek Roy (a significantly more talented junior player).

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He'd be better off in Kitchener anyway.

Yeah, there's no way Quebec should be able to circumvent the system. If Peca wants to play in the CHL, he come play in the same market that was good enough for Derek Roy (a significantly more talented junior player).

Exactly. There have been a lot of small players over the years who have come into the O and excelled. Many of which have moved on to the show. Recent guys like Roy, Bryan Little, Patrick Kane, and Sam Gagner to name a few.

There have been a few guys that come to mind from back a bit farther who starred in the OHL (an arguably much rougher league back then). They might not have made the show, but they had the stones to want to play in this league. Guys like Shane Nash and Ron Goodall quickly come to mind.

At the end of the day, if this NHL drafted player wants to one day play in the show, he's going to have to show Yzerman and the boys that he has the stones to do so.

This whole thing has to have a guy like Peterboro's Lino Martschini (5'5" 126lbs) wondering what all the fuss is about!!!


And kudos to Spott for digging his heals in - that is, if it even got to him. If it didn't, then kudos to Branch for not bowing down to Sir Patrick.

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Interesting article on Trouba. Looks like if he goes to NCAA he will never play for the Rangers. http://t.co/KMD78Br

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It looks like Kitchener doesn't have Peca's rights anymore...

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p...7#post36010137

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It looks like Kitchener doesn't have Peca's rights anymore...

http://hfboards.com/showthread.php?p...7#post36010137
Only according to Patrick.

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Why would he lie? He knows the thruth will come out eventually if he does lie. You,re a bit paranoid...

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Why would he lie? He knows the thruth will come out eventually if he does lie. You,re a bit paranoid...
What press release from the O, Q, or CHL are you using for this? As of 8:24am on Aug 18th I can't seem to find anything, which would lead me to think Kitchener still has his rights.

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What press release from the O, Q, or CHL are you using for this? As of 8:24am on Aug 18th I can't seem to find anything, which would lead me to think Kitchener still has his rights.
That's why he is saying this thing is a mess... Are you really waiting for a press release from the CHL? If Spott told him he has released Peca's rights...

You guys act like it's the first time in history this kind of thing is done. Just last year, Mikael Audette was released by Rouyn-Noranda so he could play with Mississauga. Cameron needed a backup goalie and he asked Tourigny. Tourigny told everybody in the Q not to claim him and nobody did. Why was Branch ok with it then?

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That's why he is saying this thing is a mess... Are you really waiting for a press release from the CHL? If Spott told him he has released Peca's rights...
No I am not......I am saying you are getting your info from a beat reporter who is writing to sell papers. Yes it is a saga, but why come onto the Kitchener thread and post things that are article driven when the kid himself has said he is already decided to go to Quinnipac.

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No I am not......I am saying you are getting your info from a beat reporter who is writing to sell papers. Yes it is a saga, but why come onto the Kitchener thread and post things that are article driven when the kid himself has said he is already decided to go to Quinnipac.
A reporter writes Kitchener doesn't have his rights anymore just to sell papers? Great marketing idea...

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A reporter writes Kitchener doesn't have his rights anymore just to sell papers? Great marketing idea...
Clearly you are missing the point.

The reporter writing the saga before things are done. The story still has to unfold. Things change.....You bring it to a Kitchener thread to cause a conflict.

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Interesting article on Trouba. Looks like if he goes to NCAA he will never play for the Rangers. http://t.co/KMD78Br
Good Read. Looks like a decision will be made next off season.

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A reporter writes Kitchener doesn't have his rights anymore just to sell papers? Great marketing idea...
Reporters do that all the time. Read anything by Steve Simmons in the Toronto Sun. One of the worst sports reporters I've ever read, but keeps his job because he just writes to piss people off.

All I keep hearing is that unless someone steps in, Kitchener will NOT release his rights, even if it means he doesn't play.

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Good Read. Looks like a decision will be made next off season.
There's talk he might make a last minute decision if he doesn't make the US squad.

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There's talk he might make a last minute decision if he doesn't make the US squad.
I'm sure he'll decide on the OHL vs the NCAA after the NHL draft!

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I'm sure he'll decide on the OHL vs the NCAA after the NHL draft!
lol wouldn't be surprised!

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Reporters do that all the time. Read anything by Steve Simmons in the Toronto Sun. One of the worst sports reporters I've ever read, but keeps his job because he just writes to piss people off.

All I keep hearing is that unless someone steps in, Kitchener will NOT release his rights, even if it means he doesn't play.
Why would Roy say they did release his rights? Why would he lie in this case?

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Why would Roy say they did release his rights? Why would he lie in this case?
I dont know but you should probably read this story about how Roy is angry that Peca is NOT coming to the QMJHL..

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/juniorhoc...rhockey-wp1085

From the sounds of it, the Rangers did release him and another OHL team picked him up. Though I haven't heard about Kitchener releasing him.

Either way, looks like its NCAA or nothing now.

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OHL Commissioner wants to maintain the territorial integrity of his league!

In other news, water = wet.

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In other news, water = wet.
Lies!

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I dont know but you should probably read this story about how Roy is angry that Peca is NOT coming to the QMJHL..

http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/juniorhoc...rhockey-wp1085

From the sounds of it, the Rangers did release him and another OHL team picked him up. Though I haven't heard about Kitchener releasing him.

Either way, looks like its NCAA or nothing now.
It's exactly the same thing written in the artile I posted. French or english, it says the same thing. Kitchener released his rights, an OHL team apparently claimed him but the OHL refuses to tell which team. Is that a national security secret?

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It's exactly the same thing written in the artile I posted. French or english, it says the same thing. Kitchener released his rights, an OHL team apparently claimed him but the OHL refuses to tell which team. Is that a national security secret?
Why does it matter?

This is by far the best outcome for the CHL. Peca goes to Quinnipiac, there's no precedent set that allows for leagues to poach top players from one another.

The only person who's hurt is Patrick Roy who tried to do an end run around the territorial designations set out by the CHL and was stopped. Maybe Patrick will learn that the rules do apply to him from now on.

Not that any of this is really shocking. There's about as much graft and favour trading in the Quebec League as there is in the Quebec government.

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