Sharks Acquire James Sheppard from Wild; upd & signed to new deal

**SJeasy** · 08-10-2011, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by superroyain10

Rivet was a solid #4 here, but I think DW thought he had a diamond in the rough. Looking at the price he paid to get Rivet, the contract, as well as the fact that he didn't pursue a dman after acquiring Rivet that first year, I come to this conclusion.

The contract price says high end #4. He was also a righty which I think is part of that for which DW has been looking. To mesh with JT for one-timers, especially on PP. His usage says that was part of it. Eventually his PP puckhandling put an end to that experiment. There should have been a red flag on that from his Habs' days. Golden opportunity for them and he was not a choice with Souray and Streit both surpassing him.

**Led Zappa** · 08-12-2011, 09:35 PM

Haven't seen this posted yet.

Officially listed on Sharks NHL Roster by Capgeek as AHL $105,000 NHL $725,000

fr4ed2384 · 08-19-2011, 11:45 AM

Now that the uproar over the Sheppard trade has settled , I have been pondering one question..
Can anyone really explain why DW choice to trade for Sheppard giving up the 3rd rd choice next year 2013 ...
rather than use an RFA “Offer Sheet” for the $725K ?..

Provided that the Wild did not match the offer ( highly unlikely) , using an offer sheet would have required “NO Compensation” since the minimum comp salary for the 3rd round compensation for this year (2011-12) is around $1.034M ..per the CBA (Para 10.4 Draft pick compensation for RFA s) (http://thehockeywriters.com/2011-12-...nsation-rules/).

I strongly doubt that the Wild wanted Sheppard enough to “exercise the Right of First Refusal” even the $725K never mind an offer of $800K especially since the Wild would not be able to trade Sheppard this coming season after excising this right..

Was DW trying to play nice with the Wild and other teams by the trade ?..

Would it have required that SJ offer only a “1 way” contract at $725K rather than a 2-way with the Minor League salary of $105K or other CBA issues.. The question maybe more of a question for KB209 - since I can find no requirement for only a 1 way contract in the CBA and the offer sheet forms Exhibit #6 has a line for Minor league Salary

Did DW owe the Wild a “Future Consideration” for re-signing Burns?

fr4ed2384 · 08-19-2011, 11:57 AM

I don't care one way or the other about the trade..

Also I don’t really care about the 2013-3rd (probably a late pick) since it has less than a 20% probability of playing 200 games and 1/2 of those are 3rd/4th liners, 6/7 dmen traded 2 or 3 times .. of being more than a fringe player 1 or 2 players per year

**hockeyball** · 08-19-2011, 11:58 AM

Because the wild would have simply matched it. He's still an asset, and they aren't going to just let us take him for nothing, that doesn't make sense.

Dan K211 · 08-19-2011, 01:23 PM

That woulda been awesome to makes those trades with Fletcher, then to top it off offer sheet one of his RFAs.

Clowe Me · 08-19-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan K211

That woulda been awesome to makes those trades with Fletcher, then to top it off offer sheet one of his RFAs.

No need to ruin a good relationship. Who knows when DW might need to call him again...

BrianSmith · 08-19-2011, 01:56 PM

Not to derail this, but I still have dreams of us trading back for Seto... I'm going to miss him. He'll forever be pissed at us though - it's not that he got traded but how.

I don't blame DW, it's just one of those tough business decisions. I'd give a 1st + to get Seto back, but then again maybe I'm just being sentimental. If we had signed Ward for 3mil would I be feeling this bad? Maybe it's just the fact that we have a hole and seemingly no place to fill it except via trade.

Nighthock · 08-19-2011, 02:14 PM

Sheppard + MIN 2nd for Seto ... there, fixed.

4thLinePlug · 08-19-2011, 03:27 PM

its likely this trade was part of the heatley havlat deal, and this part was just put off until after the surgery. dw is a man of his word and did it.

**hockeyball** · 08-19-2011, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by CloweForbidzYou

its likely this trade was part of the heatley havlat deal, and this part was just put off until after the surgery. dw is a man of his word and did it.

I don't know if I agree with that. The Wild had no need to move Sheppard, he wasn't costing them cap space or medical expenses. A 3rd is a good return for sure, but not a rip off. I don't see the point. It's not like the Wild were looking to clear cap space or something. They traded an asset for a pick, not a great asset, and not a great pick.

I honestly believe the Sharks just wanted Sheppard. DW may have let Fletcher 'win' the deal as a show of good faith, but beyond that, there is nothing more to it.

And I'm fine with it.