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08-22-2011, 12:35 AM
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Value wise its not bad (depending on the pick/prospect of course)

But The Kings aren't going to be trading the captain of the team when they are on the upward path. There are more to a team than just pure talents, and you are just messing too much with the other aspects of the team, such as chemistry, by trading away Brown

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08-22-2011, 01:34 AM
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Lucic > Brown

I agree that Lucic is better than Brown, However if Boston chooses not to overpay for Browns services than LA has no interest in moving him.. A fair value trade is something we have absolutely zero interest in due to the fact we aren't looking to move him... fair enough?

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08-22-2011, 02:52 AM
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Lucic > Brown
Hmmmm lets see.

Scoring?

Brown 28G, 29A = 57 Points

Lucic 30G, 32A = 62 Points

Hits?

Brown - 300

Lucic - 167

Salary?

Brown - 3.1M for three more years

Lucic - 4.1M for 2 more years

Age?

Brown - 26

Lucic - 23

Leadership?

Brown - 3 year team captain, worn the A for the USA in 5 WC's and 1 Olympics.
Lucic - never worn a letter

At best I would call it a wash. But saying Lucic is better is pushing it. Because of the wicked good cap hit on Brown I think Boston would need to add, and I like Lucic.

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08-22-2011, 03:00 AM
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Hmmmm lets see.

Scoring?

Brown 28G, 29A = 57 Points

Lucic 30G, 32A = 62 Points

Hits?

Brown - 300

Lucic - 167

Salary?

Brown - 3.1M for three more years

Lucic - 4.1M for 2 more years

Age?

Brown - 26

Lucic - 23

Leadership?

Brown - 3 year team captain, worn the A for the USA in 5 WC's and 1 Olympics.
Lucic - never worn a letter

At best I would call it a wash. But saying Lucic is better is pushing it. Because of the wicked good cap hit on Brown I think Boston would need to add, and I like Lucic.
Lets see too.

Hits, cap hit and a letter are suddenly deciding factors as for who is a better player ?

I agree that Lucic is overrated (not a bad player but his style of play is just what many people love, just like Brown) but saying he's a better player than Brown is far from 'pushing it' IMO.

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08-22-2011, 04:39 AM
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I'm sure Marchard going to LA would make a lot of Canucks happy. LOL.. Lucic Marchand are vary important key players in Boston Top 6 forward if that is what it take to get brown as good as Brown is. No Thank You.

Lucic Krejci Horton
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08-22-2011, 06:29 AM
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Lets see too.

Hits, cap hit and a letter are suddenly deciding factors as for who is a better player ?

I agree that Lucic is overrated (not a bad player but his style of play is just what many people love, just like Brown) but saying he's a better player than Brown is far from 'pushing it' IMO.
I usually agree with what you have to say, but not in this case. This was a break out year for Lucic. He needs to prove he is consistent and worth his cap before I trade Brown for him.

Brown has proven that he is a consistent 50-60pt leader, capable of 30/30 while being a league leader in physicality. He may not be the flashiest, but he doesn't take stupid penalties, he does what is asked of him, and he plays with heart.

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08-22-2011, 01:11 PM
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I usually agree with what you have to say, but not in this case. This was a break out year for Lucic. He needs to prove he is consistent and worth his cap before I trade Brown for him.

Brown has proven that he is a consistent 50-60pt leader, capable of 30/30 while being a league leader in physicality. He may not be the flashiest, but he doesn't take stupid penalties, he does what is asked of him, and he plays with heart.
If you usually agree with me, than I can live with this.

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08-22-2011, 01:38 PM
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Marchand is a Playoff Monster.. at 22yrs old, I want to keep him & see what he's capable of. This kid seems like a keeper. Im a huge Brown fan, but this deal doesnt make sense for either team. If Seguin can step up his production this year & play alongside Bergeron & Marchand, then I think Marchands' stats will sky rocket: 28g 32a 60pts.

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08-22-2011, 03:13 PM
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Marchand is a Playoff Monster.. at 22yrs old, I want to keep him & see what he's capable of. This kid seems like a keeper. Im a huge Brown fan, but this deal doesnt make sense for either team. If Seguin can step up his production this year & play alongside Bergeron & Marchand, then I think Marchands' stats will sky rocket: 28g 32a 60pts.
these are exactly Brown numbers...........

what is this trade good for and how does it make both teams better ?

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08-22-2011, 03:33 PM
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Hmmmm lets see.

Scoring?

Brown 28G, 29A = 57 Points

Lucic 30G, 32A = 62 Points

Hits?

Brown - 300

Lucic - 167

Salary?

Brown - 3.1M for three more years

Lucic - 4.1M for 2 more years

Age?

Brown - 26

Lucic - 23

Leadership?

Brown - 3 year team captain, worn the A for the USA in 5 WC's and 1 Olympics.
Lucic - never worn a letter

At best I would call it a wash. But saying Lucic is better is pushing it. Because of the wicked good cap hit on Brown I think Boston would need to add, and I like Lucic.
Lucic was the captain of a Memorial Cup winning team and of Team Canada at the Super Series.

Hit are a bull **** statistic designed for American fans who are stat happy.

You can keep Brown, we will keep the younger guy who has a higher ceiling.

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08-22-2011, 03:38 PM
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Hit are a bull **** statistic designed for American fans who are stat happy.
Everything else aside, this just sounds dumb, man.

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these are exactly Brown numbers...........

what is this trade good for and how does it make both teams better ?
Ummm I take you need a translator to decipher for you what I meant by the sentence "this trade doesn't make sense for either team"?

If Marchand ends up becoming our version of Dustin Brown I'll be happy with that. I will say this, Marchand has just proved that he is clutch & he can perform on the biggest of stages under the brightest lights. 11 goals on route to winning a Stanley Cup. Brown hasn't done much for the Kings in the playoffs up til now.

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08-22-2011, 03:44 PM
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Lucic > Brown
By a mile.

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08-22-2011, 03:47 PM
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Lucic was the captain of a Memorial Cup winning team and of Team Canada at the Super Series.

Hit are a bull **** statistic designed for American fans who are stat happy.

You can keep Brown, we will keep the younger guy who has a higher ceiling.
I think you argued this the wrong way.

The Hits stats in LA are BS. They are so overinflated it's hilarious. Which is why Brown gets so many hits.

During the Van/LA series, the total teams hits were double or sometimes triple in the Staples Center compared to Rogers Arena.

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08-22-2011, 04:01 PM
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Both sides are by default bad trading partners since they're both in win now mode.

The only trade that can go down between these two teams is if Boston deals to LA a talented but well/over paid veteran who plays a position we need for a younger, NHL-ready player of the same/similar position and game-style and a pick in a salary dump move.

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08-22-2011, 04:06 PM
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Both sides are by default bad trading partners since they're both in win now mode.

The only trade that can go down between these two teams is if Boston deals to LA a talented but well/over paid veteran who plays a position we need for a younger, NHL-ready player of the same/similar position and game-style and a pick in a salary dump move.

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Well Michael Ryder is in Dallas now so I'd say we have no need to deal. /thread

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Well kingcanadien was right in saying that in might make them think, and ultimately deny the proposal. Not because the offer is not enough for brown, but because we are in win now mode and brown is a proven 30 goal scorer and he's our captain, and we would be without a top six RW. I have no doubt seguin will be at least a 30 goal guy one day. But the deal doesn't make sense because it does not make us a better team, so that's a no from LA


NHL GMs talk about acquiring assets. Sguin and a 1st could very well make the Kings better.

Package those two assets with the Kings 1st this year and a player like Iginla could very well be replacing Brown.

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08-22-2011, 04:36 PM
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are you nuts?? Iginla is 34, with a Salary of $7.0 while Seguin is a Young Prospect with a vary high Ceiling, remember he played on Boston 3nd sometimes 4th line, so he didn't get much ice time. 6 - 10 mins a night. There is no need to rush Seguin, Claude Julien is going the right thing by bringing him along slowly, showing him how to play Defensively making him a more rounded player Like Pat Burns did with Joe Thornton. Tyler Seguin Will be a key centerpiece for the Bruins for a vary long time.

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NHL GMs talk about acquiring assets. Sguin and a 1st could very well make the Kings better.

Package those two assets with the Kings 1st this year and a player like Iginla could very well be replacing Brown.
So you're saying we should do this just because you think we "could" get iginla? That's ridiculous! Try telling our gm that.

And if that was the case why don't you guys just add a first and go after iginla yourselves. like i said we are in win now mode and we aren't desperate for a top scoring winger anymore.

The reasoning makes no sense. Nice try tho

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